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littlebillie · 20/05/2021 15:40

Just spotted this on Twitter from 1981. Inclusive and refreshing advertising - respect to Lego for this

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CthulhuChristmas · 20/05/2021 18:16

My mother was very into the idea of pink and blue, girls toys and boys toys. As a result, I think I was 4 the first time I said it wasn't fair and I hated pink Grin

I played with my brother's Lego all the time anyway. And he played with dolls sometimes too - because we were similar ages and weren't just going to parallel play with the gendered toys that officially belonged to us.

I'm glad there wasn't special pinkified Lego back then. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much.

Letsgetreadytocrumble · 20/05/2021 18:08

I also think even just the name 'Lego Friends' just feeds into the stereotype that girls are always 'kind' and 'friends' and that pressure of having perfect relationships, that boys are just not subjected to as much. They can just do their own thing, be the hero etc.

My DD absolutely loves Lego Friends, but I can also see her starting to be socialised that way as well, with her 'BFF' at school, her 'gang' etc and it just feels like my DS just never had that pressure?

ChocOrange1 · 20/05/2021 18:05

The only issue i have with lego friends is the dimensions of the characters, who have tiny waists. Why aren't they just normal minifigures?

nauticant · 20/05/2021 18:01

Which is your favourite modular Cwenthryth? I like the Fire Brigade because to my mind it's the first having a proper execution but a close second is the Parisian Restaurant for its charm.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 20/05/2021 18:01

Great thing about Lego... Change the head, change the sex. Or even just the hair...

Friends could easily be improved with a few more male characters (there are some). Unfortunately you can't wind back the clock to make Lego friends be Minifigs. But you can't condemn a whole range just because of that.

IvyTwines2 · 20/05/2021 17:57

@toffeebutterpopcorn "I never wore pink as a child. I don’t think it was ever even offered"

Same here - it was regarded as a colour for babies and toddlers, along with 'baby blue' and soft yellow. My 'girlier' friends wore primary colours, polka dots, maybe peach accessories, but not pink: it was seen as infantile.

Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:54

Advertising from 2013. I think it's fantastic that more girls than ever are Lego fans. Friends has been such a success for Lego.

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Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:51

Cwenthryth I know she is female because her that's her character. Her name is on the box.

Cwenthryth · 20/05/2021 17:47

And how do you know - from looking at the figure - that she is female?

Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:39

Also Cwenthryth in the 'main' Lego themes there are loads of female characters. The Fire Chief is female. Her name is Freya McCloud. Also I have never seen the words 'for boys only' on any Lego set ever.

Elladisenchanted · 20/05/2021 17:28

I love that ad! We have enough lego to sink a battleship but my 6 year old boy chose the lego friends ice cream van last time he was thinking the legs shop. I think the bright colours appeal to him

Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:28

Cwenthryth science and tech, motor racing, sailing, sports, skateboarding, judo, flying planes, camping, journalism....these are just some of these things the Friends characters have done over their 9 years. Oh and one sells Hot Dogs. Are these particularly 'feminine'?

Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:22

motogogo that's great that your daughter is an engineer. Although how old is she. Lego Friends has only been on the market for 9 years so if she is a fully qualified engineer now she was probably not the age that Friends is mostly aimed at when it was launched.

Cwenthryth · 20/05/2021 17:19

@Nellodee

Lego friends is more detailed and tends to have more wildlife themes. Hidden side is also good. Lego elves was amazing. Personally, I find city very bland and not terribly imaginative. It’s important not to be biased against things because they are designed for females.
It’s not being biased against things because they’re designed for females. It’s being fucking fed up to the back teeth of the constant insistence that “feminine” themes are for females, and the incessant gendering of toys indoctrinating children into that way of thinking before they even realise it. It’s how we end up with the logic error “likes feminine things=must be female”.

Lego Friends featuring equal boy and girl characters and advertised with boys and girls playing with them, fab. Deciding that the main Lego line isn’t for girls so making a pink and purple one full of pets and popstars “for girls”, sucks. It’s not the colours and themes depicted that are the issue, it’s the labelling of those colours and themes as “for girls” that is the problem.

Don’t forget the Let Toys Be Toys campaign started on this board!

Personally I always enjoyed the city (hospital/police/fire station) stuff as a child, and the pirates theme! I was bought some pink/mint green “girl” lego, late 80s/early 90s, something to do with horses, but was dissatisfied with it as the colours made it look like the world was made of ice cream and it wasn’t right to my 8 year old eyes! I now collect massive modular buildings and one-off sets like the Women of NASA etc.

MaudTheInvincible · 20/05/2021 17:17

They were inclusive in the 70s too. Now, however ...

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Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:17

PaleGreen if you don't want the minidolls sell them. Many a Lego fan will happily take them off your hands. Some are worth quite a bit.

WithLargeTableMouse · 20/05/2021 17:15

@Monicuddle

Send your respect back to the 80s before they started releasing ‘Lego Friends’ sets with poorer quality, specifically female, characters all wrapped up in pink and purple boxes 🤮
All of this!!
Ilovemaisie · 20/05/2021 17:14

Lego Friends has been one of the most successful themes Lego have created. They did years of research so what they went with obviously showed that's what consumers want.
The Friends range doesn't come in pink boxes and never has.
Friends is 100% compatible and the same scale as the ranges such as City and Ninjago etc. Compared to their previous 'girls' ranges - Homemaker, Belville, Scala, Clikits which were compatible (all Lego is compatible) but not the same scale.
Lego Friends is a fantastic theme.

thelegohooverer · 20/05/2021 17:09

It’s not just how they market Lego friends to girls that’s the problem, but also how they market violence, aggression and construction specifically to boys.

They have veered so far from their original ethos and brand name but it makes them lots and lots of money.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 20/05/2021 17:09

Pink is just a colour. Being negative about pink things just makes it a lesser colour.
Looking at the Friends set DDs are currently building the predominant colour actually appears to be Turquoise.

The funny people are annoying though. At 7yo my DD asked why the people needed to be different...

We have City, Friends, Dots, Harry Potter, Ideas, Architecture, Creator, Jurassic Park... All types really.

PaleGreenGhost · 20/05/2021 17:08

@Nellodee

I feel the need to defend Lego friends. It has huge amounts of fairgrounds rides, safari adventures, robots, garages. Some girls like pink, others green or blue.
Some of the lego friends sets are fantastic. But I've had to take out and bin the figures. They look emaciated next to normal lego people.

I'm very regressive and I don't dictate to my kids that the long hair is for the girl figures and the blue tops are for the boy figures etc. We've currently got a very mixed set of characters going on.

Lowhum · 20/05/2021 17:06

Did anyone see the fallout over this on FB last night?

GreyhoundG1rl · 20/05/2021 17:04

@bigkidsdidit

I watched a documentary about Lego and they said that the number of girls playing with it now it far higher than it used to be, in large part because they start with Lego Friends. So while we may all have played with normal Lego, we may have been unusual. For that reason I approve of it
How could we have been unusual? And how the hell did they keep tabs on who was playing with it back then to make comparisons, when there wasn't any aimed specifically at girls??
toffeebutterpopcorn · 20/05/2021 17:01

It can only be Marie Wilson (or Amy Winehouse). Queens aren’t fit to carry their hairspray...

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Nellodee · 20/05/2021 16:59

Lego friends is more detailed and tends to have more wildlife themes. Hidden side is also good. Lego elves was amazing. Personally, I find city very bland and not terribly imaginative.
It’s important not to be biased against things because they are designed for females.

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