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Priti Patel Doing Her Job

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Flaxmeadow · 20/05/2021 12:53

Priti Patel, our Home Secretary, has been photographed attending the arrest of suspected people traffickers in London . Great you would think, the prosecution of organised crime, modern day slavery being rooted out and made an example of.

Yet ATM on SM there are masses of comments where Priti Patel is being described as a Nazi, Goebbels, evil bitch, ugly faced cow, Fascist, concentration camp guard, child murderer, and so on. She is even being criticised for her shoes, the type of footwear many South Asian heritage women wear. Also accused of masturbating (she has her hands in her pockets in the photo)

Most of these comments are from men. Why so much hate for a woman doing a tough job?

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Devlesko · 22/05/2021 17:37

@LadyWithLapdog

Stupid, evil, racist, corrupt.

This has nothing to do with her skin colour or sex. Plenty more in her party.

Yes, and look what people say about them and their appearance. It's not just Pretti Patel, look at what they say about bumbling Boris appearance and they're right he's a scruffy baffoon. Not because he's a man, or a Politician, or tory, but because he's racist, evil, stupid, and corrupt.
Moondust001 · 22/05/2021 17:27

People seem more outraged by the photos she posted, than they are about the people trafficking gangs. Why is it when she attempts to raise awareness about these exploiters of human beings, these slavers, she is piled on?

(a) Because the thread that you started is about her photo, not about human trafficking. If you want everyone to be outraged about human trafficking, then a thread on human trafficking would be the way to do it.
(b) She is not raising awareness of exploiters or slavers - she is posing to get her photo taken and noticed. Given her public statements about most issues, and her personal exploitation and bullying of employees, I suspect she doesn't really give a fukc about traffickers unless it gets her name noticed.

LadyWithLapdog · 22/05/2021 17:15

Stupid, evil, racist, corrupt.

This has nothing to do with her skin colour or sex. Plenty more in her party.

HmmmmmmInteresting · 22/05/2021 16:55

@Devlesko

I'm a woman and agree with their comments. Look at what she is doing to travellers, how racist she is. I can't wish her bad enough tbh, and put a curse on her a couple of months ago, hope it works. Evil woman. HTH
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highame · 22/05/2021 16:51

Maybe it's just an impression they've been giving. Not the Labour of my family and we go back to the beginnings

picturesandpickles · 22/05/2021 16:43

@highame

Haven't RTFT but don't Labour hate successful people from ethnic minority backgrounds? I am not a fan of PP's work but a huge number of people in this country are fans. I don't live in an area where there are lots of illegal immigrants, I live in a an area where people are well off and well educated. Anyone of colour in my area has a similar background to me. I find it patronising at the very least to push my comfortable views onto those who are not so fortunate.

PP's party have a resounding majority and their manifesto (I believe) was to be strong on illegal immigration. I may not like it, but I believe in democracy and I believe that trying to drown out voices by calling them racists, means that we lack any understanding of the people of this country who have not benefited from Globalisation and University education and well off parents.

Big fat harrumph..... your turn

Er, no, Labour don't 'hate successful people from ethinic minority backgraounds'. They have loads of very successfu people in their own ranks, from varied ethinic minority backgrounds.
highame · 22/05/2021 16:35

Haven't RTFT but don't Labour hate successful people from ethnic minority backgrounds? I am not a fan of PP's work but a huge number of people in this country are fans. I don't live in an area where there are lots of illegal immigrants, I live in a an area where people are well off and well educated. Anyone of colour in my area has a similar background to me. I find it patronising at the very least to push my comfortable views onto those who are not so fortunate.

PP's party have a resounding majority and their manifesto (I believe) was to be strong on illegal immigration. I may not like it, but I believe in democracy and I believe that trying to drown out voices by calling them racists, means that we lack any understanding of the people of this country who have not benefited from Globalisation and University education and well off parents.

Big fat harrumph..... your turn

Ringbinger · 22/05/2021 16:02

Typo in last post, was supposed to say it WASN’T a huge surprise I got deleted.

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MargaritaPie · 21/05/2021 18:39

So what's the story? Are the arrested men proven to be traffickers or are they just illegal immigrants to be deported?

Needmoresleep · 21/05/2021 18:35

Am I missing something?

Laws around modern day slavery are fairly new. I am not sure I would have understood what they were about unless arrests were not publicised.

The local police and local paper were making a big thing about a multi agency operation a couple of weeks back. I assume in part to deter future criminal activity of this type (and thus the resultant human suffering). If Priti had taken the photo op it probably would have made the national papers.

I am happy to question the motives of any politician. However I am pleased that action against this sort of activity is being highlighted. So confused at why there is such criticism.

Female politicians seem to need super thick skins. Its equally easy to make a list of Labour politicians who have had a rough ride (especially those who are GC.) No wonder so few are interested, and that those we have often seem, well, thick-skinned.

MissBarbary · 21/05/2021 15:49

@Quincie

Would they get any abuse? Can't remember the last time we had a criticism of a male politician doing this ( I mean InThe last few months - not ever)
There was in my view a very unfair thread about Matt Hancock.
Quincie · 21/05/2021 14:53

Would they get any abuse?
Can't remember the last time we had a criticism of a male politician doing this ( I mean InThe last few months - not ever)

FindTheTruth · 21/05/2021 14:48

taking part in a photo op is because this is what politicians do. Ministers like to be seen engaged with their brief. In this case PP is publicising the trafficking issue.

Yes. all politicians do photo ops. A man with the same policies, in the same party, doing the same photo op would not get this level of abuse.

Crowsaregreat · 21/05/2021 14:29

I'm not one posting any messages about her but I hate her with a passion.

You can't remove sex and race from the equation. She goes out of her way to be vicious and hateful towards immigrants in order to boost her profile with the far right of her party. I very much doubt it's out of genuine conviction, she knows that a brown woman wouldn't get much support from the average Tory voter but they might feel less ashamed of their own prejudice if someone like her makes it seem ok.

She's trying to be like Thatcher, making herself into a caricature in order to gain power. It's absolutely cynical and appeals to the worst of humanity.

Serpenta · 21/05/2021 14:16

I see 'pointless, showboating photo opportunities' and I think 'Ruth Davidson'. Boy, that woman used to love a photo opp.

MissBarbary · 21/05/2021 14:05

@HecatesCatsInFancyHats

You're still missing the point Abhannmor, the reason there are pictures of Michael Howard taking part in a photo op is because this is what politicians do. Ministers like to be seen engaged with their brief. In this case PP is publicising the trafficking issue. Again, you can criticise her record, but focusing on a standard political photo op is odd.
My goodness, if we had a thread every time Nicola Sturgeon went in for pointless, showboating photo opportunities there wouldn't be room for much else.

And to be fair to Sturgeon ( said through gritted teeth) Boris Johnson isn't far behind.

multivac · 21/05/2021 10:34

She's my MP. I couldn't give a toss about her skin colour, shoes or resting face; what I do care about is that she is dishonest, self-serving, callous and really rather stupid. But the civil servants who set up this photo op know exactly what they are doing - there will be plenty of voters who agree with the OP that 'this is what I WANT 'my' Home Secretary to look like' (ie like she's playing the lead in a gritty Netflix drama).

HPFA · 21/05/2021 10:00

@saraclara

It'd be nice if she had the slightest care for the people that the evil traffickers bring here. But instead, her department shoves these vulnerable people in a van, takes them into detention and then removes them from the country, denying them the legal advice that they're entitled to, and breaking its own rules.

I'm sure there are a ton of misgynist comments made about her, but I'm sorry, she's cruel and evil.

That's exactly it.

She's not there because the person being arrested is making money out of human misery. She's there to signal to her supporters that her first priority is to stop desperate people being able to find safety in this country.

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 21/05/2021 09:52

You're still missing the point Abhannmor, the reason there are pictures of Michael Howard taking part in a photo op is because this is what politicians do. Ministers like to be seen engaged with their brief. In this case PP is publicising the trafficking issue. Again, you can criticise her record, but focusing on a standard political photo op is odd.

Abhannmor · 21/05/2021 09:29

@HecatesCatsInFancyHats

She is meant to be the Home Secretary. That is ; a politician and not a serving police officer. It is disgraceful to involve the police in a blatant political stunt like this. I'm surprised the Commissioner allowed it quite frankly. Even the ghastly Michael Howard wouldn't have done this sort of thing.

Oh, hello Michael Howard doing exactly this sort of thing...

I stand corrected. Something of the night indeed. 🌙. So Howard - another child of refugee immigrants - was every bit as vile. I suppose his many critics , including in the Tory Party, were all horrible antisemite bigots though.
Abhannmor · 21/05/2021 09:23

@TheQueef

Hezza liked a bit of showboating yet that was lapped up.
Not by my friends it wasn't. Tosser in a tank. Yet by the standard of todays politicians he is a model of probity and gravitas.
KinseyWinsey · 21/05/2021 09:17

and a security risk? She got fired for this shit.

KinseyWinsey · 21/05/2021 09:16

Or it could be nothing to do with the fact she's got brown skin or a woman.

It could be that she's a truly nasty piece of work

I think she's one of the worst politicians we've ever had. Unpleasant person. Dishonest.

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