Priti Patel Doing Her Job

I'm just waiting for a thread to be created on this board saying how 'poor Carrie' is getting stick for getting Boris to hand jobs to her mates on a plate and how it's unfair 'coz she's a woman' (e.g. best friend Nimco Ali given £350-a-day of taxpayers money for a government role without it being advertised). Poor, poor little mite. 🙄

However, in the meantime look at her plan for ethnic cleansing of travellers, you don't need guns, just Pritti Patel and her new Police Bill.
Thousands will be made homeless, families with children, I'm interested to know if the families will be forced into temp accomodation and left there.

I’m not basing my opinion on her because she is a woman. I’m basing it on her actions and words.

She’s done and said plenty to demonstrate her underlying nastiness, like 99% of right wing tories.

OK so you just want to demonize pretty much the entire other side. But that's not "nastiness" of course...

Do you mean she intentionally wants to stir up hate? If so, I don't think it's useful to start projecting motives onto people. You could easily be wrong

She’s done and said plenty to demonstrate her underlying nastiness, like 99% of right wing tories.

Just crack on and make proper changes founded in evidence, don’t try and fool people by having action shits. Reminds me of Putin riding his horse topless.

' . . . maybe don't jump instantly to demonising people.'

They're not. Patel isn't an untried, unknown quantity: she's been peddling her ludicrous brand of hateful incompetence for years. They're demonising her based on that.

Those things are qualities of the mind. They're not shown by wearing a bloody flak jacket.

If a politician is getting tough on illegal immigration you could spin it either way:

"They are whipping up the mob and inciting hate against migrants"

Or:

"They are doing their job; enforcing the law, and responding to reasonable concerns that the general public has about illegal immigration"

If people play the game of projecting bad motives onto others, that can always be turned back against them.

I'm not saying we should never consider motivations; but also, maybe don't jump instantly to demonising people. It actually says something about the person doing it.

To show she looks “strong and tough”. It’s a way of stirring up yet more hate towards people who aren’t born here’s

Do you mean she intentionally wants to stir up hate? If so, I don't think it's useful to start projecting motives onto people. You could easily be wrong.

Or it will accidentally stir up hate? If a photo does that, she isn't really responsible as what she is doing is reasonably within her job description.

Is she just posturing as "tough" for reasons of her own political career? That's possible, but again, guessing at people's motivations has limited value.

I doubt that she can achieve all that much, as the Conservative Party are fairly rubbish. Although at least she isn't on the far left and demanding open borders!

Because what PP is doing is just a stunt to feed the angry mob, and whip them into a frenzy etc. To show she looks “strong and tough”. It’s a way of stirring up yet more hate towards people who aren’t born here’s

But to actually tackle the problem, arrests won’t do much. Not when there are court back logs. Also this country has a bigger problem with poverty in our own population. I don’t see politicians doing photo shoots for that.

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I agree. When modern day slavery legislation was introduced I was surprised. Did slavery really happen in modern Britain. Publicising arrests has helped me, and presumably others, understand that it is all around us. (Those poor vulnerably men used as manual labour for decades, and starved and beaten, some workers in nail salons, brothels which fly girls in on visitor visas and then onto the next countries, country lines etc.) It then helps ordinary individuals to watch things that don't look right, and report if needed. An organised large group of people arriving together and spending low tide collecting cockles. The dodgy house clearance guy with strangely silent and withdrawn labour. Contract agricultural workers. Beds in sheds.

People who traffic humans are nasty and dangerous criminals. The more the ordinary person understands (weird knocking noises coming from a lorry parked at a motorway service station, say) the more it can be controlled.

Should a politician use their profile to bring publicity?

Yes.

Should PP?

Opinions are clearly divided. Why?

Forced labour is part of human trafficking, and the exploitation is not obvious to the individual at the outset.

If she truly wanted to deal with crime and be tough on crime, she would be pushing for a properly funded court system. No good having tough sentences when it takes years to come to trial - because the courts have been stripped bare by over a decade of Tory austerity.

I’d hate to think for a second that the abuse that PP gets on social media (which, I haven’t actually seen by the way) excuses her appalling track record.

She has shown herself to be a narrow minded racist quite frankly.

Social media is a cesspit. It shows the worse in society. If you turn off Twitter then it’s not really a mainstream issue. Twitter is not representative of real life!

I don't agree with many things that she says, but we live in a free country. She was voted in as part of the government fairly in a democratic election. We have a right to disagree with a persons views but we don't have a right to then vilify them.

but, she's in it for the cruelty. Pure evil.

Projecting the worst possible motives onto your political opponents... does that make you one of the good ones?

Don't kid youself , she's a racist Tory who would sell her own grandma if she thought there £5 in it. Yes, she probably hates trans which I can imagine may be a plus for some people but, she's in it for the cruelty. Pure evil.

It’s a bit rich to say Patel can claim responsibility for passing the Bill.