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CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/05/2021 16:19

I followed the link in LLs Twitter feed... registered ny disgust!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/05/2021 16:18

Yep @Mollyollydolly I have sent another today! It might become a habit!

Mollyollydolly · 19/05/2021 16:18

Lord Lucas is also on the case (again) see this other case.
twitter.com/LordLucasCD/status/1394941915527852036

Mollyollydolly · 19/05/2021 16:17

I've complained to IPSOS. Every time now I complain. We will make them listen. Complain. It comes from IPSOS. Flood them with complaints.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/05/2021 15:27

@ArabellaScott

The video is very clear.
Yes! I don't have sound on this PC (long story, will be fixed soon) Once s/he moves you can see the sex immediately!

The leaning angle when chopping wood. You know it's male, even though you are being told it is female!

ChattyLion · 19/05/2021 15:03

Andrew Peat, prosecuting, said: "Unlike similar cases there is no evidence any of these items were possessed with an ideology in mind, anything political.

OMG, the ideology and its politics is staring you right in the face! A picture of Germaine Greer.. how isn’t this misogynistic terrorism?

ANewDawnANewDay · 19/05/2021 13:52

@SirVixofVixHall

I am so sick of seeing “woman” . Why can’t the press print “trans” ? There is literally no mention of this person’s sex at all here.
Indeed. We are menstruators and what not and these people are women apparently.
RedDogsBeg · 19/05/2021 12:38

No doubt this delightful specimen will be jailed within the female prison estate, no doubt they were held on remand there too.

CardinalLolzy · 19/05/2021 12:06

The absolute fucking state of affairs that is all this.
I'm sorry I don't have anything more eloquent to add.

PaleGreenGhost · 19/05/2021 12:01

The one in the Mail, using the rainbow covered baseball bat/truncheon thing to smash a watermelon. That's nice.

TeaAndStrumpets · 19/05/2021 11:39

Ah the most recent report from The Lincolnite does not use the T word, but they have helpfully displayed every picture they have of the defendant.

PaleGreenGhost · 19/05/2021 11:02

Every media outlet chose to print a photo though. I bet that a headline naming a male pattern crime as carried out by a female, and attaching a photo of a male-bodied person generates maximum click bait.

This horrible gaslighting situation is obviously bad for women but doesn't really do trans people any favours either. So many crimes committed by apparent transwomen* I wouldn't have bothered to read about had they been reported accurately. "Male is violent" is so depressingly common i don't have time to read about them all.

*I say apparent because I don't know whether or not the people I read about have GRCs, or a deeply held belief that they are the opposite sex. Some may even have just found their trans identity in time for being prosecuted. Are they less trans? I don't know. If you follow Stonewall's trans umbrella then I'm trans too, so I'm none the wiser.

TeaAndStrumpets · 19/05/2021 10:50

Interesting to note, two different attitudes to reporting this locally.

The Lincolnite reported the transgender status of the accused, Lincolnshire Live (Lincolnshire Echo offshoot) did not. Also, Lincolnshire Live published a statement that they were being more careful than their rival so as not to "jeopardise a fair trial"

The point, I believe, is that Lincolnshire Echo (and therefore Lincolnshire Live) is a member of IPSO, and The Lincolnite is not.

Interesting to see IPSO repressing honest journalism.

WinterIsGone · 19/05/2021 10:39

It looks like The Times comments are now coming through - well there are two visible anyway! The second one mentions MP Tonia Antoniazzi, and as it's not buried among other comments, hopefully more people will become aware of her stand this week.

PaleGreenGhost · 19/05/2021 10:29

Is this person WHO ORDERED BUTTERFLY KNIVES AND MADE AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICE definitely not a terrorist with a political aim simply because they are white, in the Police, and apparently trans?

I've often wondered if an Islamic extremist version of the "shut the fuck up, terf" meme would cause as little stir were it as widely used?

There has been interesting research to show that almost all our terrorists have a background in perpetrating DV. This suggests that if police cared a little more about crimes against women, that that some terrorists might have been prevented from going further.

And yet here we have a situation where the press is insisting this most male of crimes is committed by a female. Where the prosecutor is quoted as saying :

"Unlike similar cases there is no evidence any of these items were possessed with an ideology in mind, anything political.

Yeah right mate. Nothing chilling about this at all. In fact I should probably ship myself off for re-education for feeling somewhat threatened by this person's existence and the knowledge that they will probably receive precious little in the way of any sentence.

PopperUppleton · 19/05/2021 09:58

The recent Harrogate conviction was reported by the local police on Facebook and the comments were overwhelmingly, hugely critical of the perpetrator being called 'she' in the report. It's the first time I've seen this on Facebook. There's a different feel in the air around this subject now.

WhatMattersMost · 19/05/2021 09:58

Ah - and now the comments are being deleted as they are posted.

Fernlake · 19/05/2021 09:54

Smashing images of politicians. Smashing up an image of Germaine Greer with an LGBT theme, and yet the paper reports them as non-political??

Ffs.

And yes, it's industrial strength gaslighting.

WhatMattersMost · 19/05/2021 09:52

The Times is now permitting some comments. My first thought when I saw the article was that the omission was deliberate, in order to highlight the glaringly bloody obvious. But I could be being overly charitable.

Kotatsu · 19/05/2021 09:49

Surely. SURELY having a collection of baseball bats with nails driven through them/barbed wire wrapped round them should preclude you from being a PCSO??

There's literally no other reason than violence for weaponised baseball bats.

McDuffy · 19/05/2021 09:29

I messaged Dr Nic at FPFW about this today as clocked from the picture in the Times and comments being turned off. Is it worth individuals complaining to IPSO?

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 19/05/2021 09:28

Fuck me. From the Twitter thread linked:

This is the second police trans equality officer who's been arrested for extreme violence in the last year

Shock Confused

AnyOldPrion · 19/05/2021 09:26

Is this related to the bomb threat made on Twitter against a women’s rights meeting, or is that completely separate?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2021 09:25

My eyes just rolled so hard....

Same here. Fuck this gaslighting shit.

StandWithYou · 19/05/2021 09:18

Times comment referring readers to Tonia Antoniazzi’s speech in the Commons about accurate recording of the biological sex of offenders appeared briefly before disappearing. I just had time to like it before it disappeared.

Having said that the jaw gives it away in the pictures. It will be interesting to see what other comments come through.

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