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Smear tests should not refer to women says study

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flyingbuttress43 · 18/05/2021 10:34

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/18/dont-mention-women-smear-test-invitations-might-make-trans/

Apologies if this has been posted but I can't see it.

Study in British Journal of General Practice says smear test invititations should be gender neutral to encourage trans men to get tested.

FFS Just when there is some light at the end of the tunnel you realise it's an oncoming train.

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NecessaryScene1 · 18/05/2021 11:04

Obviously it's helpful if invitations are written in a language the recipient understands. English is a useful default, but provision for non-English speakers is good.

If transman/non-binary people claim not to understand basic English words like "woman" then sure, maybe resources can be allocated for special Genderese versions of invitations, but they should probably be at the back of the queue behind other languages like Urdu, where the recipient is more likely to not really understand English, rather than just pretend they don't.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 18/05/2021 11:03

Open access paper (no paywall) if anyone would like to read the original text:

The survey was developed in collaboration with Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust, 56T (a trans-specific sexual health service), and the largest gender identity clinic (GIC) in the UK, based at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. Participants were drawn from patient populations linked to these organisations.
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Development of the survey was guided by organisational expertise, literature searching, and patient/public input to focus groups run by Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust and the LGBT Foundation (a charity working in the UK). The study approach and several drafts of the questionnaire were circulated to the LGBT Foundation, GIC, and 56T for feedback, which was incorporated into the final questionnaire.

bjgp.org/content/early/2021/05/14/BJGP.2020.0905

SunnydaleClassProtector99 · 18/05/2021 11:00

In other news dairy farmers would like people to drink more milk. FFS.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/05/2021 10:58

bjgp.org/content/early/2021/05/14/BJGP.2020.0905

A whole 137 people

Get in the fucking sea

AssassinatedBeauty · 18/05/2021 10:57

bjgp.org/content/early/2021/05/14/BJGP.2020.0905

This is the research that the Telegraph article is based on.

RoyalCorgi · 18/05/2021 10:53

"The new study, published in the British Journal of General Practice, polled trans men and non-binary people on their experiences."

Right. So they didn't bother asking women then?

I note the Telegraph doesn't say who carried out the study.

stonecat · 18/05/2021 10:49

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flyingbuttress43 · 18/05/2021 10:45

I am so angry about this I lost the abiilty to spell! Invitation, not invititation

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heathspeedwell · 18/05/2021 10:44

Why are women who identify as men being prioritised over the much, much larger number of women who speak English as a second language, or women who have learning difficulties?

All this will do is making harder for women to access vital healthcare.

HeadIsFucked · 18/05/2021 10:43

Wow sorry for all the fucks. But all my fucks have been given over the past 5 years now, and I fear I am running out of them. Its just the same stuff, day after day, always on stuff to do with women too. It would be anoying if it was men targetted aswell don't get me wrong, but that its solely women..its enraging instead of annoying.

HeadIsFucked · 18/05/2021 10:42

Fuck off with this shit man

I am running out of energy with it. Its relentless, and fucking stupid, and not needed. WOMEN AND TRANSMEN. Female people. Jesus. I swear if I ever get anything through my door for cervix havers or whatever I will fucking scream

Outbutnotoutout · 18/05/2021 10:41

Women and trans men!

That's inclusive without excluding women.

Whatwouldscullydo · 18/05/2021 10:40

Oh ffs

Woman just means adult human female. It covers everyone born female with any or no gender identity. Transmen are covered. Its a medical.procedure Its there to protect you health not validate identities. You have friends and family for that.

What about the women who have English as a secind language or have LDs or are poorly educated and don't know it applies to them.

Are they acceptable collateral damage to avoid a small handful acknowledging biology ?

Eyesofdisarray · 18/05/2021 10:36

You are not wrong OP
Thanks for posting

Eyesofdisarray · 18/05/2021 10:35

oh ffs- enough

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