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She's such a hateful bigot, isn't she?

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SunsetBeetch · 17/05/2021 10:02

JK Rowling has donated £1 million of royalties from one of her children’s books to help fight the Covid-19 crisis in India.

The Harry Potter author is understood to have split the sum between two UK-based charities involved in relief work, including the provision of emergency oxygen supplies.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowlings-1m-fairytale-gift-to-covid-oxygen-charities-csn5xb9tv

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SunnydaleClassProtector99 · 17/05/2021 15:01

@BlueLobelia exactly. It's not like there's a dearth of vegetarian/vegan nuts I'd rather not be associated with (Gillian McKeith for example!)
But Hitler wasn't a vegetarian for sure.
Not sure if he actually had one ball though...

Blibbyblobby · 17/05/2021 14:59

I know you think shrieking bigot and making these comparisons will make most people run a mile from the issue and not speak out, but it really is wearing thin.

Yes. The more shit like this gets spouted the more I feel I cannot stay silent because it is so so wrong.

This tactic of trying to shame good women into silence by comparing us to the worst of humanity is backfiring. It's making us stand up and say "enough, that parallel is ridiculous and the fact you made it shows just how little you understand of why women are pushing back"

Guavafish · 17/05/2021 14:59

Well done JKR for helping save lives!

RedDogsBeg · 17/05/2021 14:56

@HecatesCatsInFancyHats

So we've had Hitler & now Jimmy Saville. I hope you know any neutral observers reading this will know that it is beyond risible to compare JK Rowling to those two. It's so patently clear that she isn't a genocidal psychopath with a desire to conquer the world, nor is she a serial abuser of children, I know you think shrieking bigot and making these comparisons will make most people run a mile from the issue and not speak out, but it really is wearing thin. It simply highlights the paucity of your argument. The curtain has been pulled back...
The tactics are having the opposite effect to those intended, people are seeing the ridiculousness of the TRA lack of argument and their appalling behaviour and know that is not the side they want to be on or associated with.
VickyEadieofThigh · 17/05/2021 14:54

@Helleofabore

TedImgoingmad

Hang on Ted. We are still waiting to hear back whether The President of the United States is more powerful than Joanne Rowling. I asked it up thread, let's give it some time shall we for that decision to come through.....

There may be some doubts?

Oh, I thought you meant Trudeau there.

To name another powerful public figure who is so unequivocal in his pro-trans stance he's wiping out women's rights to safety, privacy, sports, etc altogether.

BlueLobelia · 17/05/2021 14:53

@SunnydaleClassProtector99

www.bitesizevegan.org/bite-size-vegan-nuggets/was-hitler-a-vegetarian/

The story behind the 'Hitler was a vegetarian' myth if anyone's interested.

Was going to say something like that also. Drives my vegetarian husband bonkers.
Shedbuilder · 17/05/2021 14:50

@peachgreen

People contain multitudes and can do both good and bad things. Groundbreaking, I know.

I don't agree with JKR's stance on trans rights and I strongly dislike the fact that she has used her platform in ways that have legitimised transphobia, but I will be forever grateful to her for the huge amount of money she has pumped into MS research, including funding a groundbreaking experimental treatment which my mum benefitted from. The two things can coexist. Like most of us, she is neither a saint nor a devil.

Would you show me what she's said that's transphobic, Peachgreen? I can't seem to find it.
SunnydaleClassProtector99 · 17/05/2021 14:47

www.bitesizevegan.org/bite-size-vegan-nuggets/was-hitler-a-vegetarian/

The story behind the 'Hitler was a vegetarian' myth if anyone's interested.

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 17/05/2021 14:44

So we've had Hitler & now Jimmy Saville. I hope you know any neutral observers reading this will know that it is beyond risible to compare JK Rowling to those two. It's so patently clear that she isn't a genocidal psychopath with a desire to conquer the world, nor is she a serial abuser of children, I know you think shrieking bigot and making these comparisons will make most people run a mile from the issue and not speak out, but it really is wearing thin. It simply highlights the paucity of your argument. The curtain has been pulled back...

BlueLobelia · 17/05/2021 14:44

@ChloeCrocodile

What is it with the JKR worship around here?

Women supporting a woman who stands up for women's rights! On a feminism board no less! I'm shocked and scandalised! Grin

Bloody love JKR.

JKR if you are on here then you are fabulous, and your stance on Trans issues is fabulous. (And you made my ASD reading-refuser son adore HP and as an extension adore reading... so you are flipping great in many ways. :) )

mollythemeerkat · 17/05/2021 14:43

[quote peachgreen]@ProudExclu She aligned herself with Maya Forstater. She is not "a woman like you". She is coming from a very different place. There is nothing transphobic about supporting victims of abuse, but that's not all JKR has done.

I am sorry for your experiences. In the kindest possible way, I'm not going to engage with you further because you have been through the most terrible trauma and I have absolutely no desire to exacerbate that.[/quote]
Good for her, aligning herself with Maya, who also has said or done nothing transphobic.

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/05/2021 14:41

@Gottalife

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?
JKR has never said anything that indicates she has anything other than a "good character".

Defending the rights of women and being concerned about the medicalisation of children isn't "bad" OR "bigoted".

It's common decency and common sense.

FlibbertyGiblets · 17/05/2021 14:29

@Waitwhat23

I suspect I'm far from the only person who was a trans ally and whose viewpoint was changed due to JK Rowling's essay. Not because she 'embolded transphobes' but because of my disgust at the reaction her essay got. I had heard the controversy, thought 'that's a shame, I liked her' and read the essay to get the context. I read it and thought, that seems balanced and fair and it's very brave of her to talk about her own distressing experiences.

And then I saw the backlash, the rape and death threats, the admissions that many saw her as a transphobe having not actually read her essay. And that was it for me, my eyes were opened.

In my view, she's an incredibly brave woman. She could have stayed out of all this and avoided the incredible amount of hate that came her way. She didn't. And she continues to pour enormous amounts of money into good causes.

People sneer at the 'fan club' on here. I'm proud to be part of that fan club.

Thumbs up. We're not really allowed to talk of mountain tops on here, but maybe I am allowed to welcome you to the sunlit uplands.
Hoppinggreen · 17/05/2021 14:24

@Gottalife

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?
So JKR is across between Jimmy Saville and Hitler?
Waitwhat23 · 17/05/2021 14:24

I suspect I'm far from the only person who was a trans ally and whose viewpoint was changed due to JK Rowling's essay. Not because she 'embolded transphobes' but because of my disgust at the reaction her essay got. I had heard the controversy, thought 'that's a shame, I liked her' and read the essay to get the context. I read it and thought, that seems balanced and fair and it's very brave of her to talk about her own distressing experiences.

And then I saw the backlash, the rape and death threats, the admissions that many saw her as a transphobe having not actually read her essay. And that was it for me, my eyes were opened.

In my view, she's an incredibly brave woman. She could have stayed out of all this and avoided the incredible amount of hate that came her way. She didn't. And she continues to pour enormous amounts of money into good causes.

People sneer at the 'fan club' on here. I'm proud to be part of that fan club.

Erikrie · 17/05/2021 14:23

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?

That's quite a reach isn't it. Embarrassed for you.

GrolliffetheDragon · 17/05/2021 14:22

I'm a little bit in love with JKR, I think she's pretty amazing. Not a huge Harry Potter fan or anything, just she seems like such a decent person, and was willing to say and stand by what she believed despite knowing what would happen. I admire that greatly.

And the giving so much of her own money to charity is awesome as well.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 17/05/2021 14:20

Imagine comparing JKR to Hitler and possibly the UK's most prolific paedophile. What a fucking disgrace, how insulting to so many people.

RedDogsBeg · 17/05/2021 14:19

@Gottalife

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?
The person you reference was a well known miser, the phrase tighter than a duck's arse has him as an example, he got sponsorship he NEVER donated his own money.

Perhaps you too could educate yourself like another poster on here before you make ludicrously false statements.

Zeev · 17/05/2021 14:17

@stonecat

So we've decided that money donated to transpeople is more important than money donated to combat coronavirus in developing populations?

Right. I'll bear that in mind. What else are transpeople more important than? So far on the list is women, coronavirus... anything else?

Cancer patients. Remember the person who called it horribly unfair that breast cancer patients could get mastectomies while they had to wait for their gender confirming top surgery.
IheartJKR · 17/05/2021 14:17

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?

Grin just how desperate and grasping have you got to be to post that shit?? Grin

TedImgoingmad · 17/05/2021 14:09

@Gottalife

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?
Maybe you should get a life and stop scraping the barrel.

In any event, he was not giving away his own money, he was raising sponsorship. That is not the same as giving away your earnings.

DickKerrLadies · 17/05/2021 14:02

@Gottalife

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?
Hmmm not a bad effort but unfortunately the bar was set so high with Hitler I'm not sure any more spurious comparions can reach it. Sorry.
LigPatin · 17/05/2021 13:59

Oh Lordy,
I got into a fight with some random on FB the other week who was slagging her off for donating to charity.
I cannot believe that people twist charitable giving like this. The poor woman can't win.
NB: Do not engage randoms on FB in arguments, it was like trying to play chess with a pigeon.

Gottalife · 17/05/2021 13:54

I think the point is that a very rich person making millions for charities is not really a reliable indication of good character. Remember that cigar smoking disc jockey?