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She's such a hateful bigot, isn't she?

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SunsetBeetch · 17/05/2021 10:02

JK Rowling has donated £1 million of royalties from one of her children’s books to help fight the Covid-19 crisis in India.

The Harry Potter author is understood to have split the sum between two UK-based charities involved in relief work, including the provision of emergency oxygen supplies.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowlings-1m-fairytale-gift-to-covid-oxygen-charities-csn5xb9tv

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RedDogsBeg · 23/05/2021 16:47

Matthew Paris has dubious claims to be a founder of Stonewall.

Is your evidence for that the same as the evidence that it was a transwoman who threw the first brick at the Stonewall riots, you know provably false?

What he says reeks of white male privilege and misogyny

What TRA's say and do reeks of white male privilege and misogyny.

The majority of LGBT people stand a mile away from him. LGBT is about equality and human rights and love - not white male gay privilege as he expresses

Reaching just a tad there.

Cleanandpress · 23/05/2021 16:46

Fascinating how much information you have about majority opinions on just about everything Mishy.

MishyJDI · 23/05/2021 16:45

@RedDogsBeg

Oh Mishy still making a fool of yourself I see, you really should take the advice of Abraham Lincoln I posted for you on the other thread:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

Most people see you and the TRA lobby you are part of for the dictatorial, authoritarian movement you are.

Your hero was a great believer in equality. Not bigotry and exclusion as your philosophy proposes.

Let me leave you with this:

"We have, as all will agree, a free Government, where every (wo)man has a right to be equal with every other (wo)man. In this great struggle, this form of Government and every form of human right is endangered if our enemies succeed."

Abe would not be a gender criticalist! :)

MishyJDI · 23/05/2021 16:42

@Helleofabore

Probably helps her to sleep at night for her gender bigotry by trying to offset with other charitable giving. Most people see through it

I think 'most' people see a woman who has expressed support for other women and who has a long history of philanthropy. And she has not expressed anything that is 'bigoted'. In fact, I think that the chair of the ERHC would be happy to support what she has said considering she, the chairperson, has stated that women discussing the impacts of the claims for rights by other groups is not hateful.

But, considering you also stated that Matthew Paris, one of the founders of Stonewall, should be educated on the history lessons about the LGBT community. I think 'most' readers would also hold your accusation towards Joanne Rowling in the same esteem as your opinion towards Matthew Paris.

However, I am interested in hearing exactly what you believe she has said that deserves such as accusation.

Matthew Paris has dubious claims to be a founder of Stonewall. What he says reeks of white male privilege and misogyny. The majority of LGBT people stand a mile away from him. LGBT is about equality and human rights and love - not white male gay privilege as he expresses.

So sorry, but I disagree.

Sophoclesthefox · 23/05/2021 16:30

*step in

Sophoclesthefox · 23/05/2021 16:30

The word “bigotry” really does need a rest. It is called on to do way, way more than you’d ever think was in its remit! Particularly when deployed by people who are incensed because someone has views they disagree with. Maybe the word “irony” could step it and take some of the strain Grin

RedDogsBeg · 23/05/2021 16:08

Oh Mishy still making a fool of yourself I see, you really should take the advice of Abraham Lincoln I posted for you on the other thread:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

Most people see you and the TRA lobby you are part of for the dictatorial, authoritarian movement you are.

mollythemeerkat · 23/05/2021 16:08

HaHa to people feeling "unsafe" in bookshops. Probably better not to go in them then, just in case those nasty transphobes are hiding behind the shelves ready to scare you. How ridiculous can you bloody get.

Cleanandpress · 23/05/2021 16:02

Probably helps her to sleep at night for her gender bigotry by trying to offset with other charitable giving. Most people see through it.

What is gender bigotry? Please explain?

ANewDawnANewDay · 23/05/2021 16:02

Whatsnewpussyhat thanks for that! I have pre-ordered my copy of The Christmas Pig too.

It sounds interesting - looking forward to another great story from JKR.

Helleofabore · 23/05/2021 16:02

Probably helps her to sleep at night for her gender bigotry by trying to offset with other charitable giving. Most people see through it

I think 'most' people see a woman who has expressed support for other women and who has a long history of philanthropy. And she has not expressed anything that is 'bigoted'. In fact, I think that the chair of the ERHC would be happy to support what she has said considering she, the chairperson, has stated that women discussing the impacts of the claims for rights by other groups is not hateful.

But, considering you also stated that Matthew Paris, one of the founders of Stonewall, should be educated on the history lessons about the LGBT community. I think 'most' readers would also hold your accusation towards Joanne Rowling in the same esteem as your opinion towards Matthew Paris.

However, I am interested in hearing exactly what you believe she has said that deserves such as accusation.

KittyValentine · 23/05/2021 15:59

Probably helps her to sleep at night for her gender bigotry by trying to offset with other charitable giving. Most people see through it

Oh, grow up!

MishyJDI · 23/05/2021 15:52

[quote SunsetBeetch]JK Rowling has donated £1 million of royalties from one of her children’s books to help fight the Covid-19 crisis in India.

The Harry Potter author is understood to have split the sum between two UK-based charities involved in relief work, including the provision of emergency oxygen supplies.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowlings-1m-fairytale-gift-to-covid-oxygen-charities-csn5xb9tv[/quote]
Probably helps her to sleep at night for her gender bigotry by trying to offset with other charitable giving. Most people see through it.

WinterTrees · 23/05/2021 14:43

PumpkinSpiceWoman you may want to think about changing your username. PumpkinSpiceMenstruator is a bit more inclusive, don't you think?

Cleanandpress · 23/05/2021 14:42

@PumpkinSpiceWoman

How lovely that a person can buy their way out of being criticised for bigotry! Capitalism is fabulous!
Bigotry has become so denuded of meaning it's pitiful. I can't understand what anyone who uses is getting at any more. Can you provide a different word for the message you are trying to get across here?

It would help.

PumpkinSpiceWoman · 23/05/2021 14:35

How lovely that a person can buy their way out of being criticised for bigotry! Capitalism is fabulous!

Waitwhat23 · 22/05/2021 18:09

@Whatsnewpussyhat I think I've heard it all now. People feel 'unsafe' in a shop or website because it happens to stock a book they don't agree with? Is it going to jump out and bite them? This level of navel gazing, lack of critical thought and censoring is truly depressing.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 22/05/2021 14:42

On the back of the whiny muppets on twitter crying to Waterstones that they feel 'unsafe' buying books because they are selling Kathleen Stock's new one, I thought I'd order it, then found this on pre order for £10. I know some of you like starting early for xmas. The Ikabog is also £10 too.

She's such a hateful bigot, isn't she?
MissBarbary · 22/05/2021 02:27

@ThumbWitchesAbroad

I'm still astounded, most of all, by M Atwood kowtowing to the TRA cult. Who'd have thought the woman who wrote so compellingly of a dodgy dystopian culture would then side with a group promoting something not dissimilar?
I've never liked Atwood either as a person or a writer. She always struck me as someone who doesn't actually like women and who got pleasure in inflicting cruelties on her female characters.

(I also find her writing extremely dull)

Rhannion · 22/05/2021 01:15

@Wandawomble

“Legitimised transphobia”

What utter nonsense,
I’m now starting to lose my patience with people who willingly close their eyes to the absolute violation of women’s rights and spaces and even the words we can use for ourselves AND THE BODIES OF OUR CHILDREN and then simper that JK is transphobic.
Open your eyes.
Or keep them shut and watch whilst a generation of children’s lives are ruined whilst those adults who should be protecting them are waving flags and telling everyone to be kind.

JK has actually stood up in the face of this lunacy and bravely taken a stand because most of the people in power who are the ones who say “never again” are letting it happen... again.

Well said !
Wandawomble · 22/05/2021 00:58

@TuvoknotSpock

Quote fail

I was trying to quote where the PP compared Indian PEOPLE to animals

Also racist to trivialize the suffering of the Jewish people by comparing to someone whose article you disagree with

Agree with this - and it’s amazing actually how many racist things are said by people who have no concept of what they are saying, no understanding of free speech and no grasp on reality.
Wandawomble · 22/05/2021 00:56

“Legitimised transphobia”

What utter nonsense,
I’m now starting to lose my patience with people who willingly close their eyes to the absolute violation of women’s rights and spaces and even the words we can use for ourselves AND THE BODIES OF OUR CHILDREN and then simper that JK is transphobic.
Open your eyes.
Or keep them shut and watch whilst a generation of children’s lives are ruined whilst those adults who should be protecting them are waving flags and telling everyone to be kind.

JK has actually stood up in the face of this lunacy and bravely taken a stand because most of the people in power who are the ones who say “never again” are letting it happen... again.

TuvoknotSpock · 21/05/2021 18:46

Quote fail

I was trying to quote where the PP compared Indian PEOPLE to animals

Also racist to trivialize the suffering of the Jewish people by comparing to someone whose article you disagree with

TuvoknotSpock · 21/05/2021 18:44

I thought that too and find it incredibly racist.

RoyalCorgi · 21/05/2021 14:01

People are very stupid. Pink News currently has a story about Stephen Fry agreeing to read the audio version of the Ickabog. Someone wrote on their Facebook feed that they weren't willing to give any money to JK Rowling, even though it has been well publicised that the proceeds from the Ickabog are going to Covid-19 charities.