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She's such a hateful bigot, isn't she?

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SunsetBeetch · 17/05/2021 10:02

JK Rowling has donated £1 million of royalties from one of her children’s books to help fight the Covid-19 crisis in India.

The Harry Potter author is understood to have split the sum between two UK-based charities involved in relief work, including the provision of emergency oxygen supplies.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowlings-1m-fairytale-gift-to-covid-oxygen-charities-csn5xb9tv

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peachgreen · 17/05/2021 12:06

No, @proudexclu. I am happy to respond to your general points. But I'm not going to talk about your own lived experiences and traumas. Your experiences are your own and not for me, or anyone else, to talk about.

continued with her lies about JKR supporting the GC movement

They are not lies. JKR has directly stated her support for leading GC figures like Maya Forstater. I assume the majority of the women posting on this thread would consider themselves to be GC, so I don't see why calling JKR GC is considered to be an insult?

1starwars2 · 17/05/2021 12:06

Thank you JK.
Btw, if you have the means I think we should follow by example.
I donated yesterday to an appeal organised by a friend who has family in India, for oxgenators for a specific hospital.
The situation in India is dire.

ProudExclu · 17/05/2021 12:05

@peachgreen why don’t you just come out and say “men in dresses matter more than you do”

ProudExclu · 17/05/2021 12:05

@peachgreen why do you think survivors such as myself shouldn’t be engaged with? How fucking disgusting.

Zzelda · 17/05/2021 12:04

I do like the way JKR puts her money where her mouth is in relation to causes she supports. It really wrongfoots the bigots who like to sneer at well-known people who support basic concepts like fairness, justice, anti-racism, the fight against poverty etc.

ProudExclu · 17/05/2021 12:04

@peachgreen WHAT A PTRONIZING COP OUT

You’re not engaging because you can’t without exposing yourself.

ProudExclu · 17/05/2021 12:03

Notice @peachgreen has ignored most of my points and continued with her lies about JKR supporting the GC movement.

Sexnotgender · 17/05/2021 12:03

Absolute monster, cancel her now...

Nodal · 17/05/2021 12:03

I hope she donates to a detransitioning charity and helps fund the inevitable future legal cases for all those poor children who have been medicalised, maimed, sterilised and let down by their idiot muchausen syndrome by proxy, attention seeking parents that have bought into the idiocy of telling their children they can change sex, when they can't, and making them believe that normal childhood play and experimentation is a medical issue, when it isn't. let kids be bloody kids and the whatever kind of men and women they need to be!

peachgreen · 17/05/2021 12:03

@ProudExclu She aligned herself with Maya Forstater. She is not "a woman like you". She is coming from a very different place. There is nothing transphobic about supporting victims of abuse, but that's not all JKR has done.

I am sorry for your experiences. In the kindest possible way, I'm not going to engage with you further because you have been through the most terrible trauma and I have absolutely no desire to exacerbate that.

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 17/05/2021 12:02

So, if you don't cough up the drugs and surgery cash (ker-ching for pharma and surgeons) for children, not grown adults here, children, to make irreversible changes to their bodies because they don't fit in to a crappy stereotype so individuals and charities (naming no namesWink) on the internet go straight in to affirm them, make them feel special, and tell them paying for these things (don't talk about it, don't wait and see, do it NOW) is the only way they'll ever feel happy - you're basically hitler?

😂😂😂😂 Yeah, thanks for today's laugh @cripez

JudgeJ · 17/05/2021 12:02

@Hoppinggreen

I often struggle to tell the difference between JKR and Hitler. Probably because both wrote books
It's easy, JKR doesn't have facial fungus.
Motnight · 17/05/2021 12:02

JKR is an amazing woman.

Thumpsquids · 17/05/2021 12:01

I though JK's message was pretty clear:

'Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?'

No phobia there. Everything else is in support of the rights of women and girls. If you're looking specifically for transphobia, you'll find it, or, more likely, something that you deem is transphobic. Pro-women, not anti-trans. Huge difference.

peachgreen · 17/05/2021 12:00

Now you are really reaching.

I'm really not. JKR has publicly and repeatedly aligned herself with gender critical feminists. That's why she's so popular on these boards, no? I'm sure you don't see that as something to be ashamed of, so why deny that she's done it?

ProudExclu · 17/05/2021 12:00

@peachgreen in fact it seems like you think women like me don’t deserve support at all. If no one can come out to support us without being accused of transphobia. Why do you hate us so much?

ProudExclu · 17/05/2021 11:59

@peachgreen she aligned herself with women like me. Nothing else. No movement no political gain. She aligned herself with women like me. Do you want to tell me what is transphobic about support for women like myself who have been abused and had the trans agenda used as a constant weapon to imprison them and control their every movement?? Do you know what it’s like to live with the constant threat of the police being called to a made up story of transphobic abuse if you don’t have sex with a dirty smelly man for money? Do you know what it’s like to hear the words “if that law passes you will have NO PLACE I can’t access”?

SunnydaleClassProtector99 · 17/05/2021 11:58

Time to do some vegetarian damage control.

Hitler wasn't a vegetarian. He was plant based for health reasons at times but his housekeeper published a book of his favourite recipes and it included all sorts of offal.
The Hitler was a vegetarian nonsense started because he saw the Dalai Lama was reverred and thought it would be good or.

There's a well known Jewish Vegan called Gary Yourofsky who comments that there were slaughter houses alongside the camps. Not the sort of thing vegetarians run.

So not only was that comment mind numbingly deleted by Mumsnet it was wildly inaccurate too.

peachgreen · 17/05/2021 11:58

Was it transphobic of me to object to the multiple rapes aswell?

I'm very sorry this happened to you. Genuinely. I am a SA survivor myself and I know how horrendous the long term ramifications are.

Helleofabore · 17/05/2021 11:58

None of them are as involved as JKR. They have made one off or occasional statements of support.

Now you are really reaching.

How many times has Joanne Rowling tweeted without it being in response to the threats that she was receiving? if Oprah received as many threats from males, as another survivor of male violence, and countered with a series of tweets and posts, would that be 'as involved' as Joanne Rowling?

BaronessWrongCrowd · 17/05/2021 11:56

Women speaking up for women’s rights. Clutch my pearls! How very dare they.

Marguerite2000 · 17/05/2021 11:56

I see Cripez has buggered off without addressing any of the posts responding to theirs. What a surprise. Not.
Well done JK Rowling.
There are several other billionaires who make massive contributions to charitable causes, well done to them too.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/05/2021 11:56

Besides, Cripez, Mermaids gets an enormous amount of funding. It might be worth your time to have a look at how they spend it - because I don't see much value for money for the trans community.

And if you add in the portion of money that Stonewall has to spend on supporting the trans population then it's mind boggling that there aren't more training programmes for HCPs, refuges and research into what actually might be helpful (instead of affirmation ad then being surprised when some people turn out to not have been trans but autistic/traumatised/gay).

Have you thought about asking the well established charities about what they are actually achieving for the trans community? Cos all I see is a whole lot of whining and very little useful support or infrastructure.

Tibtom · 17/05/2021 11:55

That is so lovely that she is putting a significant amount of money into saving lives in India.

I see TRAs seem to think they should receive a tithe - they behave more like right wing religious fundamentalists each day.

peachgreen · 17/05/2021 11:55

And you don't think women should be able to talk about women's rights, particularly not if they have a wide reach and a high profile?

I didn't say this either?