R4 now - Labour wants to protect women and girls now...

toffeebutterpopcorn · 2021-05-17T07:33:47+00:00

Please let them ask the obvious question... Too little to late though imho

Thecatonthemat · 18/05/2021 17:30

Yes...things are changing but we need to hear more from the leadership.

teawamutu · 18/05/2021 11:47

Just read the transcript - my daily act today will be emailing Tonia to thank her.

Lilyofthevalleys · 18/05/2021 09:39

Double sigh *Tonias.

Pass the coffee

Lilyofthevalleys · 18/05/2021 09:38

Sigh *outlining

Lilyofthevalleys · 18/05/2021 09:38

Watch Tonia Antoniazzi outlets Ning why crime recording must be by sex not gender in parliament yesterday. Labour need more Tonia’s. So refreshing to hear the issue clearly outlined without beating around the bush.

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/a120872a-3c1e-4bf0-bb6a-14d80b65579d?in=21:26:32&out=21:30:39

teawamutu · 18/05/2021 08:14

@Helleofabore

I just saw that Rosie Duffield has been elected Chair of the Women's Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) again.

Good news.

That's hilarious but enraging too - suggests a level of secret support. As opposed to, eg, putting your head above the fucking parapet.

After what happened to her I understand why, but SOMEONE needs to woman up and start telling the truth at some point.

Helleofabore · 17/05/2021 22:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/05/2021 22:05

It is, isn't it? Not everyone is happy though, as I'm sure we can all imagine.

Helleofabore · 17/05/2021 21:45

I just saw that Rosie Duffield has been elected Chair of the Women's Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) again.

Good news.

endofthelinefinally · 17/05/2021 17:52

Trevor Phillips, Yvette Cooper, Caroline Flint, Rosie Duffield. These people would make good start in making the LP a saner place. Life experience and a bit of gumption.

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 17/05/2021 16:22

@allpersistentwoman and don't forget the gay giraffes...

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SmokedDuck · 17/05/2021 16:09

I'd vote for TP as PM in a heartbeat.

PopperUppleton · 17/05/2021 15:59

Oh funnily enough I can't read the article but I can read the comments (which are often the best bit)

persistentwoman · 17/05/2021 15:52

Agreed TedImgoingmad . It's a great article and with no bitterness, despite him being suspended by the fools, along with his recent loss of his daughter.

The comments underneath are so moving.

persistentwoman · 17/05/2021 15:48

They're in a real mess aren't they toffeebutterpopcorn They've signed up to teenage politics, have allowed to mob to dictate policy and now have no clue how to reverse.
When you allow the Nandy's of the world to state that housing male born sex offenders in prison with women is a good idea, when Rosie Duffield is hung out to dry and the leader can't find the words to tell the mob to stop and when Diane Abbott tell the world that babies are born with no sex, you descend from being a political party to a being a sad joke.

PopperUppleton · 17/05/2021 15:45

I can't read that share token article I'm afraid. Any chance of another? Thanks

TedImgoingmad · 17/05/2021 15:40

Bless Trevor Philips for taking the time to write that terrific article whilst mourning the recent death of his daughter (and thank you for the link @persistentwoman).

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 17/05/2021 15:36

@persistentwoman

Now that the mainstream press have started reporting that women (and the population generally) won't vote for politicians who don't know what a woman is and who prioritise the demands of an unrepresentative minority attacking women, it's going to be harder and harder for the LP to maintain their fingers in ears, not listening to women, lalala approach.

I think it perfectly demonstrates what vote-who**s they are. Plus the dangers of letting social media and minority/splinter groups drive the bus.

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persistentwoman · 17/05/2021 14:56

There's a great article about the Labour Party from Trevor Phillips in today's Times. It's so worth reading (remembering that he has been suspended by Labour for alleged 'racism' ) as are the comments underneath. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d004faaa-b678-11eb-98e3-d1306649ebf7?shareToken=05ae9105c66dda836016cb30809e517e

Kit19 · 17/05/2021 14:54

I cant see anything in there that would prevent a woman being asked to refer to her male born attacker as 'she'

persistentwoman · 17/05/2021 14:51

Now that the mainstream press have started reporting that women (and the population generally) won't vote for politicians who don't know what a woman is and who prioritise the demands of an unrepresentative minority attacking women, it's going to be harder and harder for the LP to maintain their fingers in ears, not listening to women, lalala approach.

Kit19 · 17/05/2021 14:44

at a quick glance, no refence to upholding the protected characteristics of the Equality Act, sex and gender used interchangeably

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/05/2021 14:36

Here’s the actual paper

labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Ending-Violence-Against-Women-and-Girls-Green-Paper.pdf

IShouldBeSoLurky · 17/05/2021 11:44

Aaaaah, gotcha CharlieParley. I thought it was a strange euphemism for prostitution but know what they mean now. Thanks

CharlieParley · 17/05/2021 11:39

@IShouldBeSoLurky

The Guardian is reporting this as including “banning sex for rent”. Anyone know wtf that actually means? I didn’t hear Jess’s interview earlier.

There are unscrupulous landlords who take advantage of poor and/or vulnerable women and offer to discount or even waive their rent in exchange for sex.

(As always, there will also be some male victims of this, but the only reports I've seen were about young women being exploited in this way.)