Here’s a Mermaids fuck-up to brighten your Sunday morning...

This was theys response.

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Whereas Mermaids misgender someone in the public eye when they basically exist to be affirming on people’s gender as their full time job, and then they apologise and that’s all completely fine and nothing to see here..

Don't forget that Maya Forstater's misgendering 'crime' was to refer to Gregor Murray as 'he', not knowing that Murray identifies as non-binary.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/gregor-murray-king-troll

What Mermaids did seems far worse, since they knew that Hurcum identifies as non-binary, so it wasn't a simple case of not knowing a person's self-declared identity as it was for Maya.

And yet Mermaids are instantly forgiven by the same people who are baying for blood when any women make a similar 'error'. Strange that.

Helen Mary Jones was actually second on the regional list, as well as constituency candidate for Llanelli, a seat she had previously held. She was also second on the regional list at the previous election in 2016, so I don't know whether being placed second this time was to do with what happened in March.

She didn't win Llanelli this time, and Plaid didn't get enough votes on the regional ballot for her to get a seat representing the region, so she's out of the Senedd again.

Oh Ddraig that’s appalling. I am so sorry to hear that. So even though Helen Mary Jones did all the right apologising and committed to her own re education in exactly the terms required, she gets a permanent professional sanction (effectively) just for being female and at the same time being outspoken and caring about transmen and female non binary people and the pressures they may be/ have been under around their gender?

Whereas Mermaids misgender someone in the public eye when they basically exist to be affirming on people’s gender as their full time job, and then they apologise and that’s all completely fine and nothing to see here..

@ChattyLion no one will also be surprised to hear thtt despite HMJ being forced to publically convert to the new religion, this didn't prevent Plaid from moving her to the bottom of the regional list, ensuring that her chances of reelection were next to none.

What on earth is this mayor going to use?

Hmm, that could be problematic. Maybe we could come up with some suggestions for they. Something new, bold and utterly modern to fit in with theys Identity. ☺️

Mermaids quite frankly are dangerous - I speak from personal experience and I am sick of how they get away with all they do . They are unbalanced. Vey Bias and likely co thing to do very real harm - I am glad they have been outed. I hope more comes - it is time that the truth outed.

Why do people always have two pronouns? Why not just the one?

There used to be gendered language around mayors too, mayoress isn't used anymore I don't think, but something on tinternet said they refer to women as the honourable?

What on earth is this mayor going to use?

Just for anyone else not already aware of this back story, which I just noticed on the BBC news website, probably nobody will be surprised to see that a middle aged female Plaid Cymru Senedd politician, called Helen Mary Jones, got it in the neck over her querying of aspects of GRA and speaking up at an A Woman’s Place meeting. And that she has now committed publicly to her own ‘education’ on this area and left her personal social media account.

It looks like the person who is now Mayor Hurcum made a resignation after this to become an independent candidate. At the time, Hurcum spoke out about this, I’m quoting from BBC article linked to below)

‘Trans activists say Helen Mary Jones used transphobic tropes when she spoke at an event by campaign group, Women's Place UK. At the event she questioned whether a rise in the number of "women and girls wanting to transition to the opposite sex" has been caused by pressure to look a certain way fuelled by social media. This is an argument many trans people find offensive.

A Woman's Place UK campaigns for women only spaces and a "respectful and evidence-based discussion" on proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act, which aimed to make changing one's legal sex simpler.

Owen Hurcum, who uses the pronouns they and them, was on the party's north Wales regional list and said the party should begin a disciplinary process against Helen Mary Jones.
They added: "I want Helen Mary Jones to apologise in a way that is not 'I'm sorry you're offended'.
"I want a sincere apology and I want her to make an effort to learn about the community and understand why she's perpetrating transphobia.
"If she doesn't resign, she at the very least needs to make it very clear that she's sorry and very clear that she's learning and Adam Price as the leader of the party needs to make it very clear not just that Plaid have a great set of policies for if they're in government, but are also tackling transphobia within their own party immediately.
"If Adam Price can make a public statement that disciplinary procedures are starting, that would be appreciated."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56352615

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56276997

If they can self identify as Welsh, could I self identify as Mayor of Bangor?

@MidsomerMurmurs you articulate that very well. I think we are on the same page.

I kinda like the idea of non-binary as I rarely think about my gender

Fair enough. I don’t even have a gender, but I obviously have a sex. So arguably I’m non-binary in gender terms (everyone has a mix of stereotypically masculine and stereotypically feminine behaviour in their lives) but I’m just not interested in gender ideology about innate essences and all that. I know I’m not “agender” because that would mean I subscribe to gender ideology but don’t think I personally have one.

I believe that things like pronouns refer to sex, and I’d like my belief to be respected, and not to be forced to mis-sex people in a compelled-speech kind of way.

So, if I am biological female but feel non-binary am I ok to use she/her pronouns? I kinda like the idea of non-binary as I rarely think about my gender but I am female so happy for people to use she/her. In a way I think non-binary could be gender critical?

Is #BanConversationTherapy the new #NoDebate?

I reckon so. Everyone stop talking now. Silence must be enforced. Don't worry about the consequences. Nothing to see here.

#DoNotDebateJustValidate

#fingersinmyearsimnotlisteninglalalalala

Is #BanConversationTherapy the new #NoDebate?

Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive

It's comedy gold for sure [laughing]

More nonsense from Mermaids.

Mermaids, thank you.