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Women don’t feel safe with Starmer's Labour

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ChristinaXYZ · 12/05/2021 14:26

Interesting article on Unherd

unherd.com/2021/05/women-dont-feel-safe-with-labour

"... violence against women is a major issue for many — if not all of us. All the more so after a recent succession of particularly vicious murders – Sarah Everard, Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman in London, and Julia James in Kent to name the most high-profile ones. But it hardly featured in the election campaign. Rape convictions have fallen to a historic low, domestic violence is rife, sexual harassment is an everyday experience for girls and women and confidence in the criminal justice system has collapsed.

Leading figures in the party, however, seem more interested in ticking off fellow MPs and activists who “like” social media posts from feminist organisations than meeting any of the women’s groups expressing concern.

At the end of last week, the Labour MP and former frontbencher Khalid Mahmood homed in on identity politics as one of the causes of Labour’s poor showing, arguing that the party has been captured by “brigades of woke social media warriors”. But he’s a rare voice of sanity in a party that seems to have surrendered to a form of magical thinking."

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safeornotsafe · 14/05/2021 04:57

I don't feel safe with either. I think what nicegerbil says is right.

LadyWithLapdog · 14/05/2021 02:58

How predictable to read a Labour bashing thread on the “feminist” board on MN.

NiceGerbil · 14/05/2021 02:38

This isn't really a party political issue.

The problem is that none of them, in the end, give a fuck about women, one way or another.

That's the problem.

We are half the population FFS.

Thelnebriati · 12/05/2021 22:29

The woke stuff that is happening in the Civil Service and the judicial system is being pushed by the current Govt, which is Conservative.

''Rape convictions have fallen to a historic low, domestic violence is rife, sexual harassment is an everyday experience for girls and women and confidence in the criminal justice system has collapsed.''
These are all law & order and justice issues and again, are happening under a Conservative government.

The govt had a consultation of VAWG a few years ago and they proposed to introduce compulsory PHSE, but its been diverted away from women's issues into the woke agenda.

Shedbuilder · 12/05/2021 22:04

Memo to self: write to Margaret Beckett with copies of all 20-something letters I've sent to my MP over the last two years — without a single acknowledgement, let alone an answer.

quixote9 · 12/05/2021 21:02

Yes. Conservatives are happy for women to feel safe, but only inside their designated boxes.

Labour, to say nothing of Greens, Lib Dems, and every other sorry excuse for a pro-people party, don't even see the issue. For at least half of their voters.

And then there's us, who just want women to be understood as actual human beings, like everybody else. Half of the human race, and we're homeless.

Mollyollydolly · 12/05/2021 20:49

Joan's just been on Cross Question with Iain Dale on LBC talking about this, just before half eight. Nice to hear it aired. Margaret Beckett expressed surprise at Joan's experience, so a bit more sunlight.

JediGnot · 12/05/2021 16:06

@QwertyGirly

Of course they feel safer with a Conservative government in power.
Why is that? Tories underfund everything, not least police, so why "of course?"
Viviennemary · 12/05/2021 16:06

All this catastrophe politics like you have demonstrated in your post is doing Labour no good whatsoever. I think the Consevatives do better with law and Order than Labour. Too much woke stuff. They've lost the plot. Folk are sick of them.

JediGnot · 12/05/2021 16:05

@QwertyGirly

Of course they feel safer with a Conservative government in power.
Why is that? Tories underfund everything, not least police, so why "of course?"
Viviennemary · 12/05/2021 15:50

All this catastrophe politics like you have demonstrated in your post is doing Labour no good whatsoever. I think the Consevatives do better with law and Order than Labour. Too much woke stuff. They've lost the plot. Folk are sick of them.

QwertyGirly · 12/05/2021 15:25

Of course they feel safer with a Conservative government in power.

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