Women don’t feel safe with Starmer's Labour

Labour are just not interested in what women have to say if it doesnt agree with the partyline

I strongly suspect that the reason a lot of women dont get a reply from their labour MP is that most of their offices are staffed by students/interns of the blue haired variety who probably just delete any emails they dont agree with on women's issue. just stop the MP even seeing what women are saying.

A lot of us are Labour Party members or long-term Labour voters. Indeed, Joan Smith, who wrote the article, is one such.

It's so depressing that the Labour Party doesn't want to listen to us. The party is in a complete mess, it has now had two disastrous elections on the trot (general and election) , it hasn't been in power for 11 years, it is riven by infighting, and yet it seems determined to alienate a large chunk of its most dedicated supporters.

I have been a Labour ally for 50 years (ie since I was a child and was old enough to understand what the Labour Party was) yet Lisa Nandy wants people like me expelled from the party. What hope does it have of ever getting in to power again with an attitude like that?

If there was an election tomorrow I'd still vote Labour because I trust Starmer to act in womens interests, based on his track record outside government. No way am I voting for a party with a leader proven to lie, track record of cheating on partners, financial mismanagement,tainted with the suspicion of corruption and cronyism.
It gives me the rage that so many people think the Conservatives are great. What has happened to society?

What's Labour's definition of a woman?

Are you actually bothering to read what people are saying? Most of us ex-Labour supporters consider ourselves politically homeless. We do not think the Tories are great.

I dont think the conservatives are great at all, I loathe them as a party and always have but equally how can Labour enact policies to benefit women if their definition of women includes men?

''Rape convictions have fallen to a historic low, domestic violence is rife, sexual harassment is an everyday experience for girls and women and confidence in the criminal justice system has collapsed.'' These are all law & order and justice issues and again, are happening under a Conservative government.

Quite. And I'd go further and point out this has happened since the conservatives undid a lot of the good work Keir Starmer put in to increase rape prosecutions, when he was Director of CPS. That was done under a Labour government.
It amazes me that people can seriously blame Labour for VAWG when the conservatives have been in power for over a decade.

I think identity politics is heavily damaging Labour support but the Conservative Party are happy to create and implement policies that actively harm the most disadvantaged women in real life, yet because they don't say TWAW a lot of women on this board are happy to give them their vote.

If there was an election tomorrow I'd still vote Labour because I trust Starmer to act in womens interests, based on his track record outside government. No way am I voting for a party with a leader proven to lie, track record of cheating on partners, financial mismanagement,tainted with the suspicion of corruption and cronyism.
It gives me the rage that so many people think the Conservatives are great. What has happened to society?

I'd massively trust Labour more to fund services for women, and also properly fund PIP etc. Tbh I think the financial neglect from the Tories is an intentional way of keeping women in their box.

However, I live in Leeds where a local Labour MP recently said women were bigots for wanting single sex prison and not a single one of the other local Labour MPs I wrote to came back to me.

In the W Yorks mayoral elections I voted for Yorkshire Party followed by the Conservatives because they were the only ones who were campaigning to close the "managed approach" in Holbeck. Labour, who have had control of the council for decades, think everything is hunky dory and commissioned a white wash report that purposefully downplayed all the many harms.

Labour claim to support minorities and women, and yet on this key issue that is mostly impacting women and children from minority ethnic communities, they don't give a shit because it goes against their woke policies.

I feel I don't know what labour stands for at the moment. My politics are left wing, but I'm not convinced they are a party for women. I'm not sure they ever really were.

I honestly think the only way to take power from the Conservative party is a left leaning alliance campaigning for PR. The left have been lost for years.

I don't think you could have summarised more effectively the attitude of the current Labour party. Kudos.

Quite.

This is Mumsnet, not Twitter. It's not possible to mute individual posters you don't approve of.

hahahaha indeed GCAcademic

Ive never voted anything other than Labour but it's quite clear Labour dont want my vote and the thousands of women like me who believe that women are adult human females, allowing your party's polices on women to be controlled by a group of blue haired middle class 20 somethings is a bad idea and that any party leadership that stands by and allows the constant abuse of Rose Duffield has absolutely no bloody guts whatsoever

It’s evidence that people vote for a name not the actual ethics or policy of a party because they can’t be bothered to look into the details or think about how those details affect other women and children.
It’s being wilfully blind.

The problem is having blind loyalty to a party when they mutate into something abhorrent.
See also SNP. Greens.

Lol!

I’m ducking sick of this so called feminist board being a constant labour bashing trans bashing agenda. Give it a break.

No. Sorry. You don't get to specify what people talk about. Especially when your beloved party have turned into misogynists, homophobes and racists.

I’m not used to swearing in writing and my settings haven’t changed accordingly.

I’m not on any ducking attack. Perhaps have another read of the inflammatory thread title. I’m ducking sick of this so called feminist board being a constant labour bashing trans bashing agenda. Give it a break. Is that now being on the attack? Ffs.

Then this morning, some Labour idiot saying Priti Patel should be deported. The message for anyone who is not white: Labour is on your side as long as you are the right sort of person of colour, stay in you (victim) box, and agree with everything I say. It's barely veiled racism. Was this person calling for Teresa May to be deported during the Windrush scandal?

I had a visceral reaction to this. I am from pretty much the same immigrant (i.e parents from same region and ethnicity) background as Patel. To hear someone who purports to be left wing say this was distressing. It's the kind of thing you expect from the EDL.

Labour was handed its arse at the start of Question Time last night. Lisa Nandy was flailing about and refusing to acknowledge there is a problem, because she has been re-elected 4 times in the last 10 years. Instead, chose to go on the attack.

Then this morning, some Labour idiot saying Priti Patel should be deported. The message for anyone who is not white: Labour is on your side as long as you are the right sort of person of colour, stay in you (victim) box, and agree with everything I say. It's barely veiled racism. Was this person calling for Teresa May to be deported during the Windrush scandal?

Labour left us behind, not the other way round.

Labour need to revisit their socialist roots and realise that identity politics have no place in a socialist party.
And what NiceGerbil says.