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Stroke patient, 75, died as she lay helpless in hospital bed *content warning - sexual assault MNHQ*

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 08:26

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9563237/Stroke-patient-75-died-sexually-assaulted-lay-helpless-hospital-bed.html

"A stroke patient 'died after being sexually assaulted' as she lay ill in a hospital bed, an inquest heard.
Valerie Kneale had been admitted to Blackpool Victoria Hospital following a stroke and had later broken her leg when falling from a chair.
The 75-year-old's condition deteriorated and she died four days later.

A male hospital worker was arrested on suspicion of murder, rape and sexual assault and has since been bailed pending further inquiries.
Opening the inquest, coroner for Blackpool and Fylde Alan Wilson said: 'Concerns had been raised about a potential injury around the genital area.
'This prompted a police investigation by Lancashire Constabulary.'

The autopsy revealed that although Mrs Kneale did have a significant stroke, the pathologist did not think it was the cause of death.
Mr Wilson said: 'She said that was due to an internal and external haemorrhage which was in turn due to a vaginal laceration or tear.'

The pathologists' report believed it was caused by a sexual assault after she was admitted to hospital.
Mrs Kneale died on November 16, 2018."

I am just full of rage. She was at her most vulnerable and was failed, yet again, by the system. We should be marching.

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FlibbertyGiblets · 11/05/2021 10:55

This is so awful. That poor lady.

Akire · 11/05/2021 10:53

So awful, Bail?how? Surely they have DNA evidence so he’s only not guilty until the end of trial. Surely he is a danger to women everywhere.

Agree about headline. Man rapes stroke patient who bleeds to death as a result of injuries on an NHS ward is more accurate.

Bettyboopawoop · 11/05/2021 10:42

To the person that asked about what else is going on at the hospital well there were allegations of mistreatment and neglect at the hospital as well as poisonings and there was something else cannot remember what but I think all on the stroke unit.

Zeugma · 11/05/2021 10:42

Sandgrown Flowers

This is utterly grotesque. For this violent act perpetrated by a man to happen to a vulnerable and defenceless woman in hospital, and for her to die from her injuries without anyone even knowing what had happened. It makes me feel sick. And the hospital was already under investigation because of incidents of poisoning FFS.

My very elderly mother was in hospital for almost three weeks last year at the end of her life, and nobody was allowed to visit her because of Covid. She was totally alone and dependent on the staff to take care of her and keep her safe from harm. It makes me so distressed to read a story like this and my heart goes out to the Kneale family. I can’t even begin to imagine what they must be feeling to hear that the male perpetrator is out on bail.

Mumoblue · 11/05/2021 10:38

Absolutely, there’s too much use of passive voice in reporting violence against women.

Ivebeeninlockdowntoolong · 11/05/2021 10:34

Every single time this happens it should reflect male violence. Man kills wife and family. Man rapes woman. Man attacks woman.

Good, we need more of us to come out and state this, vocally and hard. I wonder how we can push media reporting to be "clear it is men and male violence that is the source of all these crimes being inflicted on women." ?

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/05/2021 10:28

I completely agree. Man rapes woman to death is the correct headline. Those boys who attacked the girls where one fell between the train and the tracks is the same. Male gang attacks girls. should be the headline, not 'woman knocked on track by teens'.

Every single time this happens it should reflect male violence. Man kills wife and family. Man rapes woman. Man attacks woman.

All these headlines seem as though women are just being attacked randomly. If every single time the word male or man was included, it would be very recognisable, very quickly.

Absolutely. Reporting in media needs to be clear it is men and male violence that is the source of all these crimes being inflicted on women.

Fernlake · 11/05/2021 10:22

@Ivebeeninlockdowntoolong

Stroke patient, 75, died after being raped as she lay helpless in hospital bed

Ugh! This is what is so wrong with how all these cases are reported. Look at this headline again. So who raped this poor woman? Not clear from the original headline, is it? How about instead the media started to report headlines according to the truth: -

Man rapes Stroke patient, 75, as she lay helpless in hospital bed who then died.

All too often, we know the perpetrators are men but the media are always coy about owning it - they imply that these things just happen from nowhere in particular. It makes me so cross.

I completely agree. Man rapes woman to death is the correct headline. Those boys who attacked the girls where one fell between the train and the tracks is the same. Male gang attacks girls. should be the headline, not 'woman knocked on track by teens'.

Every single time this happens it should reflect male violence. Man kills wife and family. Man rapes woman. Man attacks woman.

All these headlines seem as though women are just being attacked randomly. If every single time the word male or man was included, it would be very recognisable, very quickly.

DaisiesandButtercups · 11/05/2021 10:18

Maybe male nurses and support workers shouldn’t be allowed to work on any women’s wards in hospitals. And yes we should have women only wards.

Prioritise safeguarding.

WorkWorkAngelica · 11/05/2021 10:17

This poor woman and her family. There are not enough hateful words to describe the monster that did this.

WoolOfBat · 11/05/2021 10:13

I think rape like this (presumably easy to prove by DNA) should be punished by castration, manual, not chemical.

CardinalLolzy · 11/05/2021 10:11

I don't blame the system, I blame the person who did it.

If the system allows this to keep happening I think it needs to change. Fast. And they need to be allowed to recognise who is male and who is female.
More here: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/03/blackpool-hospital-worker-arrested-on-suspicion-of-and

There are several investigations running at the same Stroke Unit.

MedusasBadHairDay · 11/05/2021 10:10

@ArabellaScott

JFC.

What might help stop this happening? CCTV in wards? Having similar policies to schools, where nobody is left alone with patients?

CCTV would be difficult because you'd need to make sure the patients had privacy.

That poor woman and her family, like a stroke isn't horrible enough in the first place. Cases like this do make it hard not to wish we had the death penalty - and I'm normally 100% against it.

MrsMonet · 11/05/2021 10:08

I don't blame the system, I blame the person who did it.

This is one of those stories where it's so horrific I struggle to believe it's true. How can someone be so wicked. It's just beyond belief.

Cushionsnotpillows · 11/05/2021 10:07

This is absolutely horrific. I feel sick.

And he was let out on bail??? What the all in hell fuck? Really??

IdblowJonSnow · 11/05/2021 10:06

Why is he on bail?!?

Poor woman.

I hope this guy gets life for this horrible crime.

CardinalLolzy · 11/05/2021 10:05

This is horrific.
This violence and entitlement is abhorrent.

Safeguarding MUST BE PRIORITISED.

Donitta · 11/05/2021 10:03

I object to the phrase “died after being raped”. That makes it sound like the two events weren’t causally related. It should say she was “raped to death” because that’s what happened. Poor woman and family. I hope it’s clear in the court case that the rape caused her death.

Spyhnx · 11/05/2021 10:00

This is horrendous! I have been reading about male violence on women for some weeks now and thinking, we need marches/ action. Some of the cases I have read about make me wonder if a lot of men simply resent/ hate women!

Sandgrown1970 · 11/05/2021 09:59

I feel so awful reading this.

That’s my local hospital. My mother has regular strokes. One of my closest friends works on the stroke unit and when the investigation into the poisoning was ongoing (round about the same time this poor woman was raped and died) she was so shocked and really quite angered as staff on the wards were being kept in the dark and they were finding out more about what was going on inside their unit from the local press. There was a policy of silence really on the wards. At the time we had a relative on one of the stroke wards who later died in there.

Worst of all, I knew the Kneale family growing up. It’s utterly devastating. And could have happened to any of our Mum’s here. If mine has to go back in there I’m parking myself beside her and never leaving. She’s already felt uncomfortable on mixed wards in the past. But a hospital should be the safest of spaces. The idea a staff member could do this is so awful and sickening. My heart goes out to the family.

There was also a case of a teenage boy climbing into the window of a local rest home in St Annes (very near where I live) who raped a very elderly woman in her bed. That lady also later died. What is wrong with these men?

UpTheJunktion · 11/05/2021 09:59

He was bailed ? A suspected dangerous murderous sexually violet pervert was set loose?

Women’s safety really is of no importance is it?

And we get vilified for holding a vigil after being told we are responsible for protecting ourselves from male violence.

Sixsillysausagessizzlinginapan · 11/05/2021 09:57

Words fail me. 😭

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 11/05/2021 09:55

JFC.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 11/05/2021 09:52

That fucking bastard, I hope he rots in jail. What the hell is happening in this world, this has made me so so angry and upset.

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/05/2021 09:49

Absolutely horrific. Poor, poor woman. What an awful way to die. There really is no place where women are safe from men's depraved violence. It makes me so angry and upset.