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Stroke patient, 75, died as she lay helpless in hospital bed *content warning - sexual assault MNHQ*

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 08:26

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9563237/Stroke-patient-75-died-sexually-assaulted-lay-helpless-hospital-bed.html

"A stroke patient 'died after being sexually assaulted' as she lay ill in a hospital bed, an inquest heard.
Valerie Kneale had been admitted to Blackpool Victoria Hospital following a stroke and had later broken her leg when falling from a chair.
The 75-year-old's condition deteriorated and she died four days later.

A male hospital worker was arrested on suspicion of murder, rape and sexual assault and has since been bailed pending further inquiries.
Opening the inquest, coroner for Blackpool and Fylde Alan Wilson said: 'Concerns had been raised about a potential injury around the genital area.
'This prompted a police investigation by Lancashire Constabulary.'

The autopsy revealed that although Mrs Kneale did have a significant stroke, the pathologist did not think it was the cause of death.
Mr Wilson said: 'She said that was due to an internal and external haemorrhage which was in turn due to a vaginal laceration or tear.'

The pathologists' report believed it was caused by a sexual assault after she was admitted to hospital.
Mrs Kneale died on November 16, 2018."

I am just full of rage. She was at her most vulnerable and was failed, yet again, by the system. We should be marching.

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Whatwouldscullydo · 11/05/2021 14:06

I had no idea about the age limit on rape. That's unbelievable Angry

GCAcademic · 11/05/2021 14:04

It always amazes me that women of childbearing age are considered a liability for employers, when you look at what men get up to in the workplace. Yes, this is an extreme case and NAMALT, but there are a hell of a lot of them who enact behaviour than encompasses a whole spectrum of violence and harassment.

luciles · 11/05/2021 14:03

@PermanentTemporary

I hope the sister of the ward has resigned. What total failure.
I agree. Disgusting.
Allthereindeersaregirls · 11/05/2021 13:53

- Single sex wards
- chaperones for all male staff dealing with female patients
- only female staff to administer personal care to female patients

Pretty straightforward.

I think you are misunderstanding me. Those things won't prevent a male member of staff sneaking in to a room. The wards are not policed or monitored particularly. Most no longer have a ward clerk on the front desk, most no longer have front desks. It is very easy as a hospital employee to walk on to a ward and in to a patients room without another ward staff member seeing you. It's much harder if the wards all have 4 or 6 bed bays in because there's staff in the bays all most all of the time, as well as other patients. This isn't the case on wards where most beds are in single occupancy rooms. Lots of non-ward staff come and go on wards frequently - porters, cleaners, pharmacists, handymen etc and currently this is not monitored. It's a whole system failure, one which cannot be resolved with single sex wards and one which will get worse with the increase in single occupancy rooms.

MedusasBadHairDay · 11/05/2021 13:44

Fucking hell. They just stop seeing women don't they?

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 13:44

[quote Thelnebriati]I'm afraid it is. The upper age limit used to be, I think, 59; now it is 74.

''The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) provides the best measure of victimisation and estimated that for the year ending March 2020 there were 773,000 adults aged 16 to 74 years who were victims of sexual assault (including attempts) in the last year, with almost four times as many female victims (618,000) as male victims (155,000).''
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/sexualoffencesinenglandandwalesoverview/march2020[/quote]
Omg I never knew this. I think today may be the day my head finally explodes.

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Thelnebriati · 11/05/2021 13:43

I'm afraid it is. The upper age limit used to be, I think, 59; now it is 74.

''The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) provides the best measure of victimisation and estimated that for the year ending March 2020 there were 773,000 adults aged 16 to 74 years who were victims of sexual assault (including attempts) in the last year, with almost four times as many female victims (618,000) as male victims (155,000).''
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/sexualoffencesinenglandandwalesoverview/march2020

MedusasBadHairDay · 11/05/2021 13:42

@Thelnebriati

This question might not seem relevant now, but will this case be counted by the ONS or do they still impose an arbitrary upper age limit on rape statistics?
Wtf? Please tell me this isn't actually a thing!
RedDogsBeg · 11/05/2021 13:35
  • Single sex wards
  • chaperones for all male staff dealing with female patients
  • only female staff to administer personal care to female patients

Yes, a million times yes. Easy, simple, straightforward. If men don't like it, tough shit.

I was hospitalised in a.n.other country and no male attended me without a female in tow.

PermanentTemporary · 11/05/2021 13:34

I hope the sister of the ward has resigned. What total failure.

picklemewalnuts · 11/05/2021 13:34

Internal and external haemorrhage. What the hell was he doing?! Disgusting.

picklemewalnuts · 11/05/2021 13:33

It needs to happen. It needs to be made to happen, and society has to pay for it and to continue paying for it until we tackle male violence effectively.

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 13:33

@AnneofScreamFables

How about 'a male hospital employee has been arrested for sexually assaulting a female patient who then died from her injuries'.
Even "sexual assault" is too oblique. Sexual assault could be a passing grope.

She was raped so violently she had internal and external haemorrhaging.

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 13:31

@Allthereindeersaregirls

That there is even a question about whether women should be entitled to single sex wards - in hospital, where they are at their most vulnerable - is offensive.

Unfortunately it was a hospital worker. It would be virtually impossible to maintain a reasonable level of service if all staff had to be female (porters, cleaners, catering staff etc not just drs and nurses).

I do think that this thing will become more common due to the increased use of private rooms. The loss of eyes-on monitoring is a definite downside of private/ single person rooms.

  • Single sex wards
  • chaperones for all male staff dealing with female patients
  • only female staff to administer personal care to female patients

Pretty straightforward.

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RedDogsBeg · 11/05/2021 13:27

Bailed? Fucking bailed? The safety of women and girls despite all the handwringing and cries to stop VAWG just doesn't matter one iota.

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 13:27

@OvaHere

What was the original title?
"Stroke patient, 75, died after being raped as she lay helpless in hospital bed"

Obviously I realised it's shocking but that's because it fucking IS shocking. That this could have happened at all. That it took months to find out. That this cumstain is out on bail.

Really disappointed the thread title has been changed @mnhq. We should not shy away from depriving these depraved acts - we need to spell them out for people so they know exactly what's at stake.

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FightingtheFoo · 11/05/2021 13:24

@GCAcademic

Why has the thread title been changed to completely obliterate any mention of the horrific act of male violence that caused this poor woman's death? We really are not allowed to speak of male violence are we? She just happened to die as she lay helpless in bed? WTAF?
Have been at work and only just come back on and noticed the title change. AngryAngryAngry
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MondayYogurt · 11/05/2021 13:22

Without even searching I can guarantee that there is a genre of porn related to this subject.

Allthereindeersaregirls · 11/05/2021 13:17

And yes, its horrific and such things should not happen (I would that was obvious).

Sophoclesthefox · 11/05/2021 13:17

That poor woman. I am speechless.

Allthereindeersaregirls · 11/05/2021 13:16

That there is even a question about whether women should be entitled to single sex wards - in hospital, where they are at their most vulnerable - is offensive.

Unfortunately it was a hospital worker. It would be virtually impossible to maintain a reasonable level of service if all staff had to be female (porters, cleaners, catering staff etc not just drs and nurses).

I do think that this thing will become more common due to the increased use of private rooms. The loss of eyes-on monitoring is a definite downside of private/ single person rooms.

VeryHungryCaterpillarYum · 11/05/2021 13:13

I also opened this thinking it was about hospital neglect. So upset by this story but it definitely needs to be told. Just horrifying!

ginghamstarfish · 11/05/2021 13:06

Horrific. That man deserves the death penalty in my opinion. What's the point of leaving someone like that at large in the world?

AnneofScreamFables · 11/05/2021 13:04

How about 'a male hospital employee has been arrested for sexually assaulting a female patient who then died from her injuries'.

Flaxmeadow · 11/05/2021 13:02

I want to run away and live in an all-female community.

Take me with you please

Sign me up for that too please