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Girl pushed under train.

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Thelnebriati · 10/05/2021 22:50

The girls all have to run past the boys to board the train.
One girl is kicked in the face, spat on, shoved, tripped up, and ends up falling on to the tracks.

The guard in they hi vis yellow jacket just watches.

I'm at the end of my tether with male violence and entitlement.

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NutellaEllaElla · 11/05/2021 06:37

Dick heads on here with the NAMALT, as PP said where are the female gangs wandering the streets injuring people? Fack offff. This is a MALE VIOLENCE PROBLEM. Call it what it is.

Signed the petition. Thank you for raising awareness.

It's also sickening that the football player will probably keep his job. Let no one ever say that false accusations ruin mens lives, documented video evidence will barely blemish his. The girl could've died.

Sunglasses2 · 11/05/2021 06:35

There's been a couple of horrific crimes in France recently. One where a woman was shot in the legs and doused in a flammable liquid and burned to death by her ex who'd previously been in prison for awful abuse.
The other 2 classmates of a girl beat her up and threw her in the Seine and she drowned.

FortVictoria · 11/05/2021 06:32

@TheInebriati - thanks for highlighting this. What a shocking incident. And, as other posters have noted, perhaps the most shocking thing of all is that none of the girls appear surprised by this. I have signed and circulated the petition. I hope something comes of it.

SuperSleepyBaby · 11/05/2021 06:25

Even if they are eventually arrested they generally get off lightly. There are no consequences to scare them into controlling their behaviour.

Clymene · 11/05/2021 06:22

This is not something that happens everywhere. I e never seen such a shocking incident before. Why haven't they been arrested?

SuperSleepyBaby · 11/05/2021 06:20

I pointed out that these boys would attack anyone vulnerable because it is a fact. They do not just target girls. I have come across these groups and am scared of them. I have set on a train when it stopped at a station and a big group of them got on and seen how they act towards anyone they feel like picking on.

This issue is about a gang of out of control youths attacking anyone they come across who is vulnerable whether they are male or female. A lone teenage boy would have been given the same treatment by them - as they are brave in a gang.

UsedUpUsername · 11/05/2021 06:20

@echt

Those types of boys attack anyone they see as weak or vulnerable - they would go after a lone man as well. It seems the same group attacked a boy aged about 15 recently and he ended up in hospital

Could you really not do this? These were women who were attacked. What happens to men need another thread.

Thing is, this has been a problem in Dublin for years and they target anyone they perceive weaker than they are, they also harass elderly people.

I wish the authorities would do something about it but there’s way too much tolerance for petty crime and violence in Dublin. I don’t live there anymore but it was one of the more ‘memorable’ things about living there

rabbitcow · 11/05/2021 06:13

What struck me too is how inured to it the girls seem to be. They’re just heads-down, trying to push through to catch their train, not even shocked at the yobs, just numb to it all

I thought that too. The one that got a kick just hurried on her way. This sort of thing must happen a lot.

echt · 11/05/2021 06:13

@HelgaDownUnder

It looks like the guard has his hands full with trying to get the whole gang off the train. What is one person in a yellow vest supposed to do against a whole gang, who clearly have no fear of any consequence? I'd say gang violence is a growing problem in most western cities - it's mostly, but not always male perpetrators. Paining it as an issue of male entitlement against women ignores the small but growing number of female-initiated attacks and the mainly male victims of these crimes. It's a sickening video regardless.
So beside the point. Hmm
Lavanderrose · 11/05/2021 06:12

Awful! This type of behaviour happens in schools also, kids spat at and kicked. If in schools police had to be involved it would send a message that this type of behaviour is never acceptable.

Theunamedcat · 11/05/2021 06:10

Yes this thread will soon fill up with screams of namalt its sickening

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/05/2021 05:55

@HelgaDownUnder

It looks like the guard has his hands full with trying to get the whole gang off the train. What is one person in a yellow vest supposed to do against a whole gang, who clearly have no fear of any consequence? I'd say gang violence is a growing problem in most western cities - it's mostly, but not always male perpetrators. Paining it as an issue of male entitlement against women ignores the small but growing number of female-initiated attacks and the mainly male victims of these crimes. It's a sickening video regardless.
Is this another way of saying NAMALT??

We aren’t exactly bombarded by stories and images of young women attacking males...

echt · 11/05/2021 05:53

Those types of boys attack anyone they see as weak or vulnerable - they would go after a lone man as well. It seems the same group attacked a boy aged about 15 recently and he ended up in hospital

Could you really not do this? These were women who were attacked. What happens to men need another thread.

HelgaDownUnder · 11/05/2021 05:36

It looks like the guard has his hands full with trying to get the whole gang off the train. What is one person in a yellow vest supposed to do against a whole gang, who clearly have no fear of any consequence?

I'd say gang violence is a growing problem in most western cities - it's mostly, but not always male perpetrators.
Paining it as an issue of male entitlement against women ignores the small but growing number of female-initiated attacks and the mainly male victims of these crimes.

It's a sickening video regardless.

UsedUpUsername · 11/05/2021 05:35

However, it's not ubiquitous & certainly not limited to Dublin

For a city the size of Dublin ... it’s pretty bad.

No one in authority is willing to push back for whatever reason and these thugs almost always get away with their bad behaviour.

These pathetic guys would shit their pants if faced with real gang violence

Beeeeeeeeeeeeeep · 11/05/2021 05:26

@Rejoiningperson

This isn’t a male/female problem as much as a culture of violence in young groups, basically going around beating everyone up. Someone’s going to end up really serious soon. Probably bought up with violence. The football club have issued a statement but have not said they will kick him out. Which is a completed cop out.

I think those lads should be made to do community service in all of their spare time and curfew at night. They’ve lost the right of freedom until they’ve paid a debt back to society.

If it's not a male female problem then where are the roaming gangs of female thugs?
nzeire · 11/05/2021 05:23

And they were EVERYWHERE. The antisocial tracksuited little bastards. No escaping them. The rubbish, the spitting, the swearing, the fights...
like ants

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HeirloomTomato · 11/05/2021 04:36

@Gothichouse40

I didn't realise Dublin had these problems. Such a beautiful city.
I used to live in Dublin, about 20 years ago now (#oldhag) and there would be occasional street harassment and yobs outside pubs on a Friday night but nothing this bad. These lads are out of control and seem to think they can do what they like in broad daylight. I don’t think we have ASBOs in Ireland but they need to introduce them to knock this loutish behaviour on the head.

What struck me too is how inured to it the girls seem to be. They’re just heads-down, trying to push through to catch their train, not even shocked at the yobs, just numb to it all. So sad to think young women in Dublin in 2021 are having to get used to this misogynist crap on the streets. I never had to just put up or shut up like that when I was that age. Where are the consequences for these little pricks?

MrsTroutfireVII · 11/05/2021 04:35

But allegedly prison often just teaches them more criminal skills and broadens their network. A lot of working class boys don't seem very scared of the prospect.

MyOctopusFeature · 11/05/2021 04:27

@1forAll74

I wish it was enforceable,to round up these dangerous nasty lads who have a herd mentality, and to take them to somewhere akin to an army training camp for a few weeks, and to have some brutal training,to teach them some respect and manners towards all people, and to get them off the streets for some time.
That is what prison is for.
MrsTroutfireVII · 11/05/2021 04:26

This isn’t a male/female problem as much as a culture of violence in young groups, basically going around beating everyone up. Someone’s going to end up really serious soon.

It's already happening all over the UK. Look at all the stabbings between rival gangs. Two youths were shot in Smethwick only the other day (colleague had to give evidence as he was at the scene two mins before it happened).

MrsTroutfireVII · 11/05/2021 04:20

@Susannahmoody

Sounds bloody awful.

When will men make boys accountable?

Why only men and not society?
IHateCoronavirus · 11/05/2021 03:57

Bloody hell that poor girl. The boys should be made to pay, and the parents should be made to pay. The fact that these boys have grown up with so few boundaries and values is just as much neglect as a child who grows up without any other need being catered for.
A clear sharp message needs to be sent out that shitty parenting has consequences, perhaps then it will stop being the easy option!

Rejoiningperson · 11/05/2021 03:40

This isn’t a male/female problem as much as a culture of violence in young groups, basically going around beating everyone up. Someone’s going to end up really serious soon. Probably bought up with violence. The football club have issued a statement but have not said they will kick him out. Which is a completed cop out.

I think those lads should be made to do community service in all of their spare time and curfew at night. They’ve lost the right of freedom until they’ve paid a debt back to society.

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