Girl pushed under train.

My gut reaction is to wish those boys harm or say they need locking up and ideally sterilising. I am so fearful of that display of overt, entitled, male violence I feel sick. And the fact they are likely heterosexual and at some point be attempting relationships with perhaps the same girls is especially wrong.

I don't know really what the solution is though. I am sure there is trauma and unhappiness in those boys' backgrounds. I do know that the problem of male violence should be talked about constantly and made a political priority. And yes of course male violence is bad for males too. I am angry at the way attention and resources are directed towards identity politics when this is the discussion we need to be having.

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I can only assume this thread started out not in Feminism, because the apologists for male violence on this thread are appalling. As other are pointing out, there are no gangs of violent girls kicking boys in the head - its men. The police tolerate it, the train co tolerates it, society tolerates it. Enough.

Yes, it is not clear if that boy is spitting or doing an aggressive head butt type move to intimidate the girls. Either are awful - especially spitting while covid is a risk.

Feeling deeply ashamed.. That young women in my city are being subjected to this... So shocking. Has family breakdown contributed to the lawlessness of young males? Imagine having one of these thugs living at home...

This is so dreadful. The girl kicked in the face was not the girl who fell under the train. I have signed the petition for the boy who kicked the girl in the face - but there was two other boys that caused the other girl to fall onto the tracks. One looked like he spat at her or got in her face - the boy behind him moved his bike tyre and took her feet from under her. Appaulling behaviour I hope they are all made an example of.

Absolutely shocking.

Have they been arrested? The assaults are there for all to see see, absolutely clear. As one has been identified surely the police should have swiftly brought him into custody and charged him while they identify the rest.

I've been on that train and the middle aged men and elders are just as fucking rude. It's a horrible place, vile people.

Which is not the case for Dublin as a whole.

My brother lives in Balbriggan Dublin and there have been problems with gangs for years, especially male gangs sexually assaulting girls and women. The media won't report and the Gardai do nothing. The residents have taken to marching. I don't hold out much hope that the thugs in the video will get much more than their hands slapped.

I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out that these gangs attack anyone they perceive as vulnerable. Truth is truth. It's still an epidemic of male violence that puts women in danger.

The NAMALT and Women Do It Too crowds can feck off though.

I watched that with horror yesterday, the why they worked like a pack and the girls knew it was going to happen.

I recognise how they tried so hard to just ignore them.

I remember having to learn that trick as a young teen.

Apologies if i misunderstood!

Well done on finding the exception to the rule. What's the proportion male perpetrated to female violence? The most cursory of google research will tell you
@NutellaEllaElla
What are you talking about? I posted that as an example of male violence against women. The woman's ex was male and one of the classmates was male too. Both victims were women.

There is no point pretending this is just about a group of boys who target women. It is anyone vulnerable. And i fully know that women are vulnerable in many circumstances- I have been sexually assaulted on a street when I was about 14.

I live near there and i have come across these groups and seen how they act. They are not scared of grown men either - they know a man can’t hit them as he is the one who will end up being prosecuted for assaulting a minor. They are not scared of the police as they know there is no real consequences.

I have seen they intimidating lone men - and the man has to keep his head down or he will be beaten by a gang of 10 or 20 boys.

Ok but you should know the wider context. Dublin has had a problem with ‘feral youth’ as I call them for a long time and nothing is ever done about them

Then re- post the link on a thread of your own where you say look at how awful this is but it's not just women who get attacked.

Try AIBU.

This is horrendous

I felt sick watching that even before she fell. Absolutely disgusting.

Jesus christ I'm not easily shocked but this is horrific. I hope these boys are severely punished for such hideous behaviour.

Thing is, this has been a problem in Dublin for years and they target anyone they perceive weaker than they are, they also harass elderly people.

This issue is about a gang of out of control youths attacking anyone they come across who is vulnerable whether they are male or female. A lone teenage boy would have been given the same treatment by them - as they are brave in a gang

This a thread on Feminist Chat about what happened to those women.