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Girl pushed under train.

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Thelnebriati · 10/05/2021 22:50

The girls all have to run past the boys to board the train.
One girl is kicked in the face, spat on, shoved, tripped up, and ends up falling on to the tracks.

The guard in they hi vis yellow jacket just watches.

I'm at the end of my tether with male violence and entitlement.

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Sonofabiscuit · 11/05/2021 08:14

@toffeebutterpopcorn

I hope this is not shushed up under ‘oh but he is an aspiring footballer/architect/vet/DJ... what about his career??😭’ defence.

Little shits.

I hope it's not hushed up as well . I hate the so called excuse of well it will ruin his plans as hes going to be a footballer or whatever if punshied .sod his plans ,what about his victims plans ? Would the idiots at the football club be so supportive of him and others like him if their daughters or female or male relatives were the victims ...some how I doubt it .
LongHotSummerJustPassedMeBy · 11/05/2021 08:14

This is appalling.

I wondered whether the girls were on their way home from work maybe and had to change trains at that junction. Perhaps they are used to running the gauntlet of abusive males every time they change trains. Horrendous.

I assumed that the guard would have had to keep the other train doors closed to stop the gang from getting back on the train via another carriage.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 11/05/2021 08:14

@SuperSleepyBaby

Therse boys wouldn't be aspiring vets or architects! That is not their mindset.
There’s always one though... even if they just mentioned once ‘that’s a nice building’.

You see it in the reports when there have been gang stabbings in London... he is such a lovely boy, wanted to be XXX, gets the groceries for his Nan...

toffeebutterpopcorn · 11/05/2021 08:12

They actually stated human rights? How is it that men have ‘more’ human rights?

Woman - no right to catch a train without being attacked
Man - human rights to attack a woman and not have the meanies demand he is punished?

GCAcademic · 11/05/2021 08:11

@toffeebutterpopcorn

I hope this is not shushed up under ‘oh but he is an aspiring footballer/architect/vet/DJ... what about his career??😭’ defence.

Little shits.

Sadly, on the basis of the way this kind of thing usually goes, I think we can make an educated guess that this is precisely what will happen.
SuperSleepyBaby · 11/05/2021 08:11

Therse boys wouldn't be aspiring vets or architects! That is not their mindset.

groovergirl · 11/05/2021 08:11

The Irish Sun has a story here. It says the Shelbourne FC is investigating its player's behaviour. Also that the FC has a lot of female players; I wonder how they'll feel if this yobbo isn't reined in?

ARoseByAnyOtherNameIsStillAs · 11/05/2021 08:11

I've looked into more news reports and this 'gang' are responsible for other attacks.
Why are the police sat on their asses! This happened early April - does it take Twitter sharing my horrified users to get anything done in Dublin? Come on Dublin authorities do your job and arrest these violent thugs.

"Gardai are probing if the same gang was behind two horrific attacks in north Dublin.

On the first occasion, CCTV footage showed a young female being pushed on to a train track at Howth Junction station on April 1.

The images showed a youth lunging at a woman before a pal attempts to use the wheel of his bike to trip her.

She managed to keep her feet but a second female - the 17-year-old - was clipped by the bike and fell into the gap between the platform and train.

As the thugs walked away, the shocked girl, who suffered minor injuries, was helped on to the platform.

In the most recent incident, a lad jumped on to the top of a family car after he was chased by 20 thugs in Malahide on Saturday night.

But he was later cornered by the mob and beaten before being treated in hospital for his injuries."

SunflowersAndLavender · 11/05/2021 08:09

I'm a railway guard in the UK. We are absolutely NOT trained or equipped for anything physical. We are told to avoid confrontation, to retreat to a safe place and call the police or ask our security contractors to intervene.

I think we've reached a stage where we need to priortise recruiting huge numbers of public transport police/security to patrol all trains and tubes to a much greater extent than they do. It's true that there insufficient guards/conductors on PT these days but they are toothless tigers anyway.

GCAcademic · 11/05/2021 08:09

I agree the football club need to end the career of the violent thug - what do his football club say? Have they made an announcement about this?

They’ve issued some platitudes about standing against violence against women and that they will look into the incident, followed by that statement that the petition is a breach of the scum’s human rights.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 11/05/2021 08:09

I hope this is not shushed up under ‘oh but he is an aspiring footballer/architect/vet/DJ... what about his career??😭’ defence.

Little shits.

UsedUpUsername · 11/05/2021 08:08

@SuperSleepyBaby

Gangs from more socially deprived areas use the trains to visit seaside towns so they can hang out on the beach etc and have fun causing trouble. But these gangs also cause trouble in their home areas too. No one deserves to have to put up with people like this whether they are from poor or wealthy areas.
Usually coming from the north side of Dublin.

But it is a phenomenon all over Dublin, just less so than the north side.

The head-down-and-rush-through-as-fast-as-you-can is the typical response.

Hope this video makes the authorities take youth violence and intimidation seriously.

ARoseByAnyOtherNameIsStillAs · 11/05/2021 08:03

Someone up thread said this is a problem in Dublin. My question is WHY are the Dublin authorities/MP/police/local groups all not shouting loud that it must be sorted. WHY are the girls head down almost expecting it. Is this normal in Dublin?

Dublin is off the list of potential places to visit until they protect their own girls/women. Disgusted with Dublin that this is perceived as normal or usual. If you are from Dublin and aware this occurs on a regular basis why is it allowed to?

SuperSleepyBaby · 11/05/2021 08:01

Gangs from more socially deprived areas use the trains to visit seaside towns so they can hang out on the beach etc and have fun causing trouble. But these gangs also cause trouble in their home areas too. No one deserves to have to put up with people like this whether they are from poor or wealthy areas.

Sonofabiscuit · 11/05/2021 07:59

Signed ...chipped in on there to promote and sent the link to friends to sign.
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hellywelly3 · 11/05/2021 07:59

This was 1st April and no arrests have been made yet!! Wtf

SunflowersAndLavender · 11/05/2021 07:58

Seems to be a huge problem in seaside townships in Dublin. Access on Dart from city centre to Howth Malahide Bray and Greystones increased today to 50% capacity. This is only going to get worse. Terrible invasion for locals

I don't understand this comment. Whay is a terrible invasion for locals? Invasion by what/whom?

ARoseByAnyOtherNameIsStillAs · 11/05/2021 07:57

How is the poor girl that fell between the train and platform (head first) and the girl that was kicked in the head? It's sickening behaviour.

Have they all been named and arrested?

I feel sick that they have done this and that they would even consider this type of behaviour.

I agree the football club need to end the career of the violent thug - what do his football club say? Have they made an announcement about this?

SuperSleepyBaby · 11/05/2021 07:56

I think the doors were locked because the train was due to leave and the guard was kicking the gang out of one carriage. If the other carriages had been left open, then the boys might jump into those carriages and intimidate the people in there.

WorkWorkAngelica · 11/05/2021 07:54

No one is saying there are groups of women doing the same and no one has said it's not all men. It's very clearly a group of young men and predominantly a problem among young men/boys. I don't think I've read a post saying women do the same thing, unless I've missed it.

All people are saying is that it's not specifically a male on female violence issue. It's a male on vulnerable people issue. Women are by default more vulnerable. This particular video is of girls being attacked. No one is denying those things but adding context that there are other victims in other attacks.

I really don't see any male apologists or NAMALT though. Confused

echt · 11/05/2021 07:53

Is there a need to boot someone off the thread for adding context?

Please. It was advice. If I could boot people off MN I would have done it years ago. Pack in your hyperbole.

They're not saying NAMALT

I didn't say that. Read what I said, why don't you?

it's best to open up discourse than shut it down is all I'm saying

Not when this is about women. Find somewhere else to expand the range.

groovergirl · 11/05/2021 07:52

This YouTube clip identifies three of the perpetrators.

PiccalilliChilli · 11/05/2021 07:46

I have to defend my Irish guard colleague here. On my job we are told not to get involved but raise the alarm and report afterwards. Too many rail staff in the UK have been injured by getting involved in stopping fights. The police and operating companies tell us not to. It's probably the same for Irish Rail. It's because we could make things worse and also the train companies hate sickness post assault because it can take weeks or months which costs them money.

Crockof · 11/05/2021 07:46

And the member of staff ignoring it.

SRS29 · 11/05/2021 07:46

One question I saw on Twitter which was very relevant was why wehere all the train doors closed apart from the last carriage forcing the girls to have to walk past the group of boys? They were seen trying all the doors and having to move down the platform to then be spat at, kicked and pushed as we saw....made me feel physically sick watching Angry

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