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Degendered underwear - or just gendered underwear for those not same sex/gender 🤔

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EachDubh · 08/05/2021 22:46

www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/may/08/urbody-gender-free-underwear-fashion-industry

I may be reading this wrong, I was expecting some new style that suited all but extreams, however uf I have read it right it's the same old gendered fashion for those who feel different from their sex with added bits to help replace those you don't have.
I may have missed the point but gender free to me doesn't mean breast packs for those without or genital pouches. It means walking into a shop and the same piece of clothing being available in all shapes and sizes for all people. Maybe I am being overly simplistic though.

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teezletangler · 09/05/2021 02:15

In an ideal world, you’d walk into a store and there’s no men’s or women’s section,” said Graham. “You’d simply choose what makes you feel great, affirms your identity, and allows you to express yourself without a brand boxing you in. We’re a part of this movement.”

This is bollocks, because male and female bodies are different. Differently shaped, differently sized. It's all well and good having tailored shirts beside dresses, but for one, you'd have to entirely change the sizing system- a men's S is worlds away from a women's S! I can actually see why they think this would be a good idea, but it's pretty impractical.

MissBarbary · 09/05/2021 01:54

The Sunday Times has this. I see Louis Vuitton and Burberry are both trying to flog men's skirts

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/187b1d5e-ac07-11eb-b844-593e41a4a1a5?shareToken=b686e4c310e438c4f937710a81037a9c

The article the OP posted referred to a designer called Art School. I'm not seeing anything particularly ground breaking here- it's over priced slogan t- shirts. There are a couple of dresses which would be nice if they weren't sludge- coloured. The dresses are cut for a female body shape with breasts, a waist and hips

www.matchesfashion.com/womens/designers/art-school?is=Art%20School

MissBarbary · 09/05/2021 01:46

@EachDubh

www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/may/08/urbody-gender-free-underwear-fashion-industry

I may be reading this wrong, I was expecting some new style that suited all but extreams, however uf I have read it right it's the same old gendered fashion for those who feel different from their sex with added bits to help replace those you don't have.
I may have missed the point but gender free to me doesn't mean breast packs for those without or genital pouches. It means walking into a shop and the same piece of clothing being available in all shapes and sizes for all people. Maybe I am being overly simplistic though.

I like gendered clothing. The last thing I want is the sort of shop you describe.

Having said that I'm not quite sure the OP and the pair behind this are so far apart. The article below is full of self- aggrandising, sanctimonious waffle about the pretty mundane achievement of producing a very limited range of underwear , all of which has been done before but ends with this:-

“In an ideal world, you’d walk into a store and there’s no men’s or women’s section,” said Graham. “You’d simply choose what makes you feel great, affirms your identity, and allows you to express yourself without a brand boxing you in. We’re a part of this movement.”

www.thecut.com/2021/04/urbody-makes-classic-underwear-for-all-gender-identities.html

alkanet · 09/05/2021 01:19

Hmmm, can't really see the point of bras for people with no boobs. The whole thing with bras seems to be about hoiking them up & presenting them like some form of titty treat to mankind. (Light sports bra for me anytime.)
Gender neutral pants? Can recommend silk boxers or French knickers if you're feeling fancy.

Defaultname · 09/05/2021 00:38

Now available in X, Y and Gen Z fronts.

EachDubh · 08/05/2021 23:16

Much better headline 🤔🙂

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Melroses · 08/05/2021 23:13

So sex-free underwear, but plenty of gender.