Degendered underwear - or just gendered underwear for those not same sex/gender 🤔

Yes ScrollingLeaves it was a very odd thing that he said, to say the least. His motivation for saying it can only be guessed at

I'm waiting for a unisex codpiece.

Those who wear men’s underwear: which brands?

Women's bodies are shaped differently. Hence clothes marketed at women. I'm not interested in clothes that fit everyone, but in actual fact fit no one. Or just a select few. Clothing that actually fits women properly will always be a thing. Business models like this suit very few and will be out of business in no time.

“MonkeyNotOrgangrinder

In the The Cut article linked to above, it shows Alok V Menon wearing the underwear in an Instagram post, and the company thanking Alok and saying they're honoured.
Presumably the same Alok V Menon of 'little girls can be kinky' fame? Unless there's another transactivist with the same name?
www.google.com/amp/s/www.sausageroll.com.au/tech/twitter-defends-gross-little-girls-are-kinky-tweet-by-alok-vaid-menon/%3famp”

When looking at the photos of him in the Cut article about the ‘degendered’ underwear, I was wondering skeptically, but a little willing to be wrong, is someone like him actually perfectly benign ( apropos shared private spaces)?

Then I saw your post and read the full Twitter post he’d written. He absolutely is not.

I’d be very pleased if we could get some less gendered girl’s knickers on this side of the Atlantic - though preferably not with front stuffing in them

Just a wild guess- but any supermarket, M&S, Next or John Lewis. They all have colourful, stripy, tie- die or plain black and white knickers for girls. There are pink and Disney but it's a wild exaggeration to suggest that's the only choices.

Slightly off topic, but we used to often buy our girls knickers from Canada when we visited there. They had a couple of really nice brands that were not itchy or uncomfortable at all. One positive effect of it being a woke capital is that the girl’s knickers are really cute and cool, with dinosaurs, comic book patterns and bright coloured stripes. Far better than the endless Elsa knickers we have here (though I am not knocking Elsa!) I’d be very pleased if we could get some less gendered girl’s knickers on this side of the Atlantic - though preferably not with front stuffing in them.

(My username and underwear choices are a coincidence.)

My first post!

I've just seen Bluebella's new ad (underwear company that seems to cater for women only) and I'm speechless.

The two stars are Tayce and A'Whora, stars of RuPaul's Drag Race. It's being done for Pride Week.

I have no idea if my post belongs here but I saw this thread and thought I'd ask you what do you think.

As I said, I was left speechless. Why on earth a company is dressing drag artists in underwear when I'd assume their sales are primarily from women or men buying for us I have no idea.

As for degendered underwear, well, I'm an old fart that still buys her (comfortable) knickers and sports bras from M&S. I don't suppose they can help that they have a large amount of reviews from men that say they wear their lace knickers but I am miffed about their changing room policy.

Once again someone who grew up in an environment where stereotypes were pushed to extremes decides the only way to live is to be trans

Yes, this seems to happen a lot doesn't it? Almost as if trans is not innate, but a product of the enforcement of gendered stereotypes 🤔

Yy if a "cishet" man said that they would be cancelled immediately. But apparently twitter are deleting and banning anyone who mentions Alok's thoughts on little girls. I don't see the difference tbh, apart from clothing choices, between a cis man and Alok?
Maybe the underwear company don't know about it or something?

[quote MonkeyNotOrgangrinder]In the The Cut article linked to above, it shows Alok V Menon wearing the underwear in an Instagram post, and the company thanking Alok and saying they're honoured.
Presumably the same Alok V Menon of 'little girls can be kinky' fame? Unless there's another transactivist with the same name?
www.google.com/amp/s/www.sausageroll.com.au/tech/twitter-defends-gross-little-girls-are-kinky-tweet-by-alok-vaid-menon/%3famp[/quote]
I had the same thought when I saw that picture. Not someone who most companies would want to be associated with their products, surely.

Also in the article in The Cut:

One of Abrams’s early memories is sneaking into their brother’s room to steal his briefs — a treasured item that felt more natural to wear, but one they’d have to hide. Growing up in the Midwest, Abrams knew that buying boys’ underwear was never going to be allowed. Still, they gravitated toward underwear and clothing that society said were not for them.

Once again someone who grew up in an environment where stereotypes were pushed to extremes decides the only way to live is to be trans.

Yes, they might as well call them transpants, since the point of them appears not to be to wear something that is suitable for your body, but to wear something that makes you look as if you have a different body than you actually have. Gender-free? Nope. Inclusive and suitable for all? Nope. Suitable for a tiny minority of people.

Well......as someone with breasts that do need actual support I am totally and utterly excluded from this. It's almost like the default body type is male.

I agree with OP. Wearing clothes padded to imitate breasts or penis is the opposite of gender-free.

Now available in X, Y and Gen Z fronts.

DefaultName!

Just read this op to DP.
He put on a Thong.
I dearly wish I could send you the photo.
He wants to know if castrating his boy parts is supposed to be sexy.

Meh, it’s a fad!
It’s all a fad, can’t get too excited over any of it.

I don't understand why e.g. a woman who considers herself 'gender free' or 'gender neutral' would want to wear pants that make it look like she's got a penis. Surely that's wanting to positively look like a man?

It won’t be long before we’re all in red capes.

I’m so sick of this gender shite, made up bullshit.

I had a look at the products they sell. Their market is pretty narrow, as they seem to be catering to an extremely small slice of the population. There's nothing, for example, for someone with a bust.

They seem to be chasing what we used to call the "mythic i-D market": that elusive group of young people under 30 who have a lot of disposable income, are model slim, and are very subcultural. In truth, the numbers of people who hit all three of these in the UK are minuscule.

It may be different in the US though.

In the The Cut article linked to above, it shows Alok V Menon wearing the underwear in an Instagram post, and the company thanking Alok and saying they're honoured.
Presumably the same Alok V Menon of 'little girls can be kinky' fame? Unless there's another transactivist with the same name?
www.google.com/amp/s/www.sausageroll.com.au/tech/twitter-defends-gross-little-girls-are-kinky-tweet-by-alok-vaid-menon/%3famp

I have moved over completely to wearing men's underpants. The wide elastic band is SO much more comfortable.