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Have you/will you spoil your ballot?

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CervixSampler · 06/05/2021 13:50

Today I have for the first time ever. I know I'll be flamed by some but the available choices don't know what a woman is. I had fun with my pencil but it sits uneasy with me.

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Olderbadger1 · 13/05/2021 13:53

2-minute action.
If you are in Wales, the BBC wants to know if/why you did or didn't vote in the Senedd elections. Please tell them, especially if you spoiled your ballot because you are politically homeless as an adult human female.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57086750?fbclid=IwAR1S1dvQclCakBSyokffodf6LYzxefxMcakAV1hjqlwGyZQKcPucvB6WrdI

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 10/05/2021 13:10

Late to the party, but I spoiled mine with a sticker I wrote out at home. First time ever. Felt horrible, but less horrible than voting for the LibDem whose party doesn't know what a woman is.

PurpleWh1teGreen · 10/05/2021 12:29

@Cwenthryth

I spoiled mine with a suffragette quote - “No self respecting woman should work or wish for the success of a party that ignores her sex”. Enough respect to our foremothers for you?
I went with the same quote on a pre-filled out sticker. Wink
Cwenthryth · 10/05/2021 12:28

I spoiled mine with a suffragette quote - “No self respecting woman should work or wish for the success of a party that ignores her sex”. Enough respect to our foremothers for you?

womanity · 10/05/2021 11:19

@caringcarer

No never. Woman had to fight to get the vote. It is disrespecting them imo.
Seems more disrespectful to vote for parties who pretend women aren’t oppressed tbh.
EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 10/05/2021 11:09

Oh goody, more scolding.

caringcarer · 10/05/2021 01:42

No never. Woman had to fight to get the vote. It is disrespecting them imo.

castemary · 10/05/2021 01:23
Grin
womanity · 10/05/2021 01:15

@castemary

Childish nonsense.
Sorry mum.
castemary · 10/05/2021 01:06

Childish nonsense.

Thecatonthemat · 10/05/2021 01:02

Meanwhile in the Scottish Parliamentary elections, turnout was very high but they reckon that 140000 were spoiled votes. Maybe due to confusion about the system used, or maybe something else.

Thecatonthemat · 10/05/2021 00:49

Have just looked up the figures for Leeds. Shows lists of candidates for each ward, size of voting population and votes cast as a . The numbers of spoiled votes were between 30 and in some cases 70 plus. Some of the votes were close so I imagine that those would have been looked at at least . Surprised the numbers weren’t higher .

EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 09/05/2021 19:19

And it's not just that I spoiled my ballot. I told people around me about it. My family. DP's huge family. Friends. No window poster, no endorsement, nothing.

All my lot abstained.

The candidate we'd have most likely voted for lost by a handful of votes. It was really, really close.

CharlotteFlax · 09/05/2021 18:03

I spoilt mine for the first time ever. No one thinks that the counting clerks are going to read every message (if one was even written on a spoilt vote) but the actual number is spoiled votes is counted. So I gave them something to count!

Alltheprettyseahorses · 09/05/2021 18:01

Where's my quotes post gone? 🙄

Alltheprettyseahorses · 09/05/2021 18:00

Tbh, round our way our knobhead party leader Tony gets votes and then just ignores the voters anyway until, well I'd like to say until the next election but they don't even have to put that much effort in, being from the party that's going to win anyway, so it's ignoring forever. At least a spoilt ballot shows lack of support.

GAHgamel · 08/05/2021 22:56

Huge number of spoilt ballots in the London Mayoral election by the sound of things, but that seems to be down to poor ballot design rather than postal votes. It seems "put a cross against your first choice in column A and against your second choice in column B" becomes less of a clear instruction when there are two columns of candidates on the ballot and column A and B are marked in much smaller print than the candidate names.

Binglebong · 08/05/2021 19:23

19 spoilt in my area, 14 where I was before. But these are wards with about 3500 cast so it puts it in perspective slightly. I suppose the advantage of such low numbers is that there is a chance each spoilt paper stands out more.

womanity · 08/05/2021 19:16

Look for the election results on the council’s own website. (Assuming council election.)

CervixSampler · 08/05/2021 10:40

I'd like to know how many spoilt ballots there were. How can I find out that information?

Labour need a total revamp.

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flintyminty · 07/05/2021 22:24

I spoilt my paper - with some very clear statements. It is a very safe Labour seat so I didn't expect it to make a difference or be seen/read. However, all votes now in for the Council and one seat went down to the wire and went to Tories by one vote. I would think all spoilt papers were viewed and discussed very carefully. The candidate would likely have a pretty good idea why they lost.

Waitwhat23 · 07/05/2021 19:49

My area has just announced who won the constituency vote and the newspaper article announcing this mentioned the number of spoilt ballots. It's just less than 200.

SquishySquirmy · 07/05/2021 13:27

I spoilt mine for the first time.
I tried to be very careful about what I wrote (almost certainly unnecessary overthinking) because I did not want it to be misconstrued as a personal adhominem attack on one of the candidates (who is a transwoman).

I absolutely have nothing against her personally: My concerns are about sex based rights and the freedom to raise those concerns and tell the truth without the fear of destroyed livelihoods and careers, death threats and rape threats and all the other "consequences" some women have suffered for speaking out.

However I did worry that writing "woman = adult human female" could be misconstrued as against that candidate personally. Possibly even drawing a penis could be interpreted that way!

Probably I was overthinking it...

MissBarbary · 07/05/2021 13:15

I expect that somewhere there is a record of the number of spoilt ballots overall.

Of course spoilt ballot papers are counted - all the papers are counted. That doesn't mean they count for anything.

I can't find a precise figure for the 2019 election but here's some hyperbolic headlines for you. Then note the actual figure- 3363 out of the whole of South West London. This is 20 constituencies. The average constituency is 72,200 so if only 50% voted then out of 722,000 people 3,363 spoiled their vote. That’s 0.4%

Spoiled ballots soared by almost a third from the 2017 General Election in south west London

Constituencies recorded a 32% surge in rejected ballot papers at last week’s election, with 2,552 in 2017 rising to 3,363 in 2019

sharksarecool · 07/05/2021 12:21

Is there actually a formal record anywhere of the number of spoiled ballots? In all the counts shown on the news they just read the number who voted for each candidate. Do they not record the number of spoiled ballots anywhere?

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