Laurel Hubbard to go to Tokyo

[quote MiladyBerserko]Not sure if this has been posted...

This is the woman who was cheated out of her place by Hubbard.

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Yes, I posted it up thread. The name of Kuinini Manumua has been added to this list:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4175263--No-Trans-Olympian-List-of-women-and-girls-disadvantaged-in-sport-resource-thread

We don’t always know the names of the women and girls who miss out, many of them never get the chance to shine, or get the chance for us to learn their names, but when we do we should shout their names. There have only ever been 43 Tongans go to the Olympics, and Manumua can’t add herself to that list.

If we were allowed to speak the truth, most reasonable people would see the emperor has no clothes.

That's the thing though, the message of the story was that everyone colluded despite being able to see perfectly well.

Everyone can see the emperor has no clothes, whether they use the words or not.

Not calling Hubbard by truthful, factual terms is allowing obfuscation to happen which in turn is allowing the thing in itself to happen. If we were allowed to speak the truth, most reasonable people would see the emperor has no clothes.

Not sure if this has been posted...

This is the woman who was cheated out of her place by Hubbard.

mobile.twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1406992665644830725

You know the high pointy bit of a mountain, that word we’re not allowed to use on here… well this has pushed my DH over it and my teenage son too. DS was getting there a while ago, but this has catapulted him over it.

I’d actually love it if every single woman competing got together, and agreed that when it’s their turn to lift, they walk up to the weight, turn their back and walk off.

Gender critical feminists are frequently accused of not understanding the difference between sex and gender, or conflating sex and gender. Sex and gender are two separate things. So why would it be false or wrong to call trans women 'males'? Their sex is male, and their 'gender identity' is feminine.

Er, what does he think a TW is?

Female obviously. TW are women and women are female so TW are female.

This is why they like the TWAW chant, it isn't designed for understanding it's designed to confuse.

Poor Tom. Still, bonus marks for directly attempting a novel right-wing philosophical objection - opposing class-based sport admission in general, and you should be "individualist". "Any discriminatory ban or free for all is ludicrous collectivism."

"If you’re going to call trans women male I’m going to tap out of this conversation."

Tom Harwood on Twitter.

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Er, what does he think a TW is?

Oh dear, Tom Harwood has picked the wrong person to argue the TWAW sports case.

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Its infuriating, just been watching on ITV news with DH. He says no other women should compete against Hubbard, just let them stand out there like the cheat they are.

The Olympic authorities won't let her take her daughter with her.
Gives me the rage too, @Sexnotgender

What if she'd not been able to pump? I found it virtually impossible despite milking like Daisy the Cow for the actual live baby.

Why I'd she doing it to herself? She'll get booed and everyone will call her a sad cheat.

He rarely brings up anything about trans issues because he knows he then gets me ranting for 10 mins+. But this evening he mentioned that he'd seen this on the BBC website or somewhere and he was

He was smart enough to say, 'And it's not just the testosterone, it's the male puberty.'

I took the chance to explain the interesting posting rules about pronouns and how I would have to refer to Laurel as 'Laurel' or 'Hubbard' or 'that athlete' or whatever if I didn't want to either a) compromise my principles or b) clock up a deletion.

The batshittery of this whole situation stuns me every single time I actually stop and think about it.

Pumping is SHIT. I’m currently breastfeeding my 10 week old and that’s draining enough without pumping extra to store and training for the bloody Olympics!

I’m so angry about all of this utter bollocks.

My 14yr old son has been well and truly peaked.
Him in the car >>> "HOW is THAT fair?!!".

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It doesn't matter if Laurel wins or not - Laurel has already taken a place on the team.
If Laurel has a convenient injury or sudden weakness so Laurel doesn't win the competition or a medal, that still doesn't help the woman who missed out.

I don’t think Hubbard will win.

I don’t think winning is the point, I think being there is the point.

I don't think Laurel Hubbard will win gold in Tokyo - I think there will be far too many eyes on that competition......

They covered this on Radio 1 Newsbeat this morning. I was actually quite surprised when they said 'before she transitioned she competed in the men's competition'.

I hope she wins just so that there is an uproar and people get angry.

We need a spotlight on this now, so people sit up and take notice. This ridiculous situation needs to end.

A woman who has worked tirelessly has missed out on her opportunity to go to the olympics because Laurel has taken her place.

Shame on Laurel and shame on those who have allowed this to happen.

The world has gone crackers!

Interesting that Hubbard is 43 and the average age for weight lifters to be at the top of their game is mid 20's. I wonder why that could be?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9709005/PIERS-MORGAN-Allowing-transgender-weightlifter-compete-Tokyo-Olympics-mistake.html