He/Him

Sorry endoplasmicreticulum I didn’t mean to quote you. I meant to respond to poster who talked about being school staff and what to do if asked to declare pronouns.

It's a bit like every time you meet someone at the (very male) industry events, everyone you meet says hello! I'm a man. My name is Dave. And you say hello! I'm a woman. My name is sue.

When you're at something like Oktoberfest in London where there's lots of women in durndels with blonde plaits serving steins to mostly men who are a bit pissed. And you have long blonde hair and are clearly female and so get treated by many of the men as they treat the women in durndels.... Which by the way is not good, the understanding is the men are there to be entertained and the attractive women are there to be looked at etc...

How does pointing out to every man I meet that I'm a woman and him saying yes and I'm a man help?

Yeah it's all a bit odd.

Not least the dynamic of a lot of these corporate events.

If you work in a male dominated industry, it doesn't half emphasise that.

It's also very sexist.

Academics who have a PhD and so use Dr rather than mr or mrs, finally have a levels of equality in emails and letters. Their sex can be anon.

Whack a bloody pronoun on and all that goes. There's been studies on sexist responses to male or female names.

I personally think stating your pronouns is a risible act of virtue signalling nonsense but I'm really not seeing that it's aggressive, territorial pissing, telling you am a man or anything else dark and sinister.

They're just "virtue signalling prat" to me- whether male or female. Prime example was Jeremy Corbyn.

Lots of women have experience with males making sure you know they're "male". See it all the time with privileged classes - know your place etc.

Typical Aquarius!

I mean, it couldn't possibly be that he just wants to show some solidarity with a vulnerable minority could it?

So hilarious watching you trying to turn every single trans inclusive act or statement into something dark and sinister.

They've either been captured, or they're a prat.

Hate all of this she/her stuff also or the worst one is they/them. I don't understand why people need to do this? I find it really odd and I hope my kids grow up normal and not feeling the need to do it.

The comparison to star signs is excellent

I'm up for enforced stars signs instead.
It'd be interesting to see the sweeping generalisations born of that:

Arrogant Aries
Stubborn Taurus
Attention seeking Leo

Of course it's all rubbish, DH is an introvert Leo, but it makes about as much sense and relevance as gender woo.

If ever asked by the organisation I work for to do this, I'm considering either replying with 'That triggers my uncertainty about my gender and seeing anyone put pronouns in their signature also triggers it - have you considered the impact of this?' OR putting 'Pronouns: I. Don't. Care'.

My DH has it in his work email now. He works in a male dominated field. I also work in a male dominated field. I’ve raised this issue with him several times focusing on how he is making it harder for women in a male dominated industry. He won’t change his signature. It’s an edict from his boss and it’s not a battle he is willing to fight. My point that he is only free to not choose to fight that battle because he is a man fell on deaf ears.

I would normally consider my DH very enlightened and distinctly feminist, but on this issue, he has really bought into the “it’s kind” argument.

Veggie box delivery CEO (Abel and Cole) has she/her in her newsletter profile. Utterly pointless wankery. I would love to know the thought process that went behind why on earth she thought her customers would give a flying fuck what her pronouns are? It's about as useful as knowing her star sign...

A fella I work with did it too and I instantly lost all respect for him.

Any ideas how to answer them without flagging myself up as the anti Christ?
Paddington state.
Followed by questioning.
When are third person pronouns used?
Why are third person pronouns used?
Why would you need to know my pronouns?
If you teach English
Why are pronouns the only part of speech anyone seems to remember? Can they suggest ways to make subordinate clauses and exclamations this memorable?

DP has it in his signature block, he is senior in his organisation.
He is trying very hard to make their organisation a more diverse and inclusive place as its dominated by white males. I know he is not doing it to demonstrate authority.
Hes doing it because he's been told by the LGBT group at work that it will make it easier for trans people to disclose their identity in his team. A marker of being a "safe" person if you will.

It makes it really complicated. If I had to put pronouns on my signature I honestly don't know what I'd put, I don't feel female I just am, and I'd love to simply identify out of my oppression. But I can't.

She/her is something society has given me, not something I've chosen

I would assume they'd been pressured or shamed into doing it like many of us.

Bergamotte you have educated me/I.

I am rather taken with bink/bonk and will consider making up my own special snow/flake pronouns and changing them at will.

Maybe pay/gap or redundancy/candidate or maternity/leave which is what she/her signifies to many clueless wombles in the workforce.

My autistic son was asked this recently.
His rather nihilistic response:
"I have no pronouns.
Do not refer to me in any way."