Britain's youngest trans child

I have a DD who isn’t a fan of dresses, princesses or looking pretty. She just wants to be comfortable, and frilly dresses and long hair that hurts to brush are uncomfortable.

I also have a DS. His big sister put him in a dress and he loved it- because it was brightly coloured and more comfy than jeans.

I dunno... seems there’s an awful lot of adults out there who forget that physical comfort and being able to have fun and pursue your own interests is a much bigger deal to children than some navel gazing concept of gender identity.

'How to fuck up your child in one easy step'.

This actually quite scares me. I'm too old for this world.

The father states the child has mentioned they are non binary, seriously where would a 4 year old have head this phrase? Most adults still don't really understand it.
Abuse by parents amd stating that he had a 4 year olds permission to share is bull. A 4 year can't give permission for this. What the hell is wrong with people. Let the child be whoom ever they want need to be, but stop feeding them drivel they can't understand and putting it in public for all to see.

My son was utterly convinced he was going to grow up to be superman at that age. Would ponder where he would find a radioactive spider.

When I was growing up gendered expectations were something to fight against, to subvert. How on earth did we get to the point where they were seen as biological, its so confused. Of course the little girl wants to be like her brother, why wouldn't she, 'girly' stuff is rubbish.

Just means they are kids.

I had this on and off for about two years with my child telling me he wants to be a girl. It was because he preferred “girl” games and liked his hair long and some of the other kite kept telling him it wasn’t for boys. I just used to say oh do you and boys can do that too and encouraged him to play with what he wanted to and dress how he wanted. He’s now not like that anymore and his interests are different. It’s just something children go through sometimes doesn’t mean they are trans

Ds would have had a stroke. He has always had a ‘thing’ about people ‘you’re not santa!’ ‘You’re not Noddy!’ ‘You’re not Charles Dickens!’
(Natural history museum).

He’d be in the corner of shame on day 1...

What about the other children

In this case the other children will be boys........and a natal girl, I suspect, would be quite a bit more vulnerable in such situations. That's not to say that boys and men do not ever require the dignity and privacy of their sex, too.

The words 'bandwagon and 'jumping on' spring to mind
Couldn't even finish that article
😟

If a 4 year old said they were a dog, you wouldn't put a bowl of dog food on the floor for them to eat. I fail to see how this is any different. Wtf is wrong with folk?

Nah, R0
Not even possible

Its always a possibility.

[quote Mummyoflittledragon]@Shizuku
You say you were a trans girl tomboy.

What age did you trans?

Can you really not see anything strange or alarming in preschool children identifying as trans?[/quote]
Would it be possible not to turn this discussion into yet another one about Shizuku?

The world is going mad
PS I wanted to be a boy when I was about 4- thought it would be more fun
Lace up shoes and tartan trousers......😄 mum left me to it

Not just the parents but GP and nursery have responsibility.
So too does media

Agree it’s a fair few adults who are failing the dc

My youngest DD from less than 2 years has pretty much only worn leggings, no interest in anything else and her favourite colour is blue, though she currently sporting a very bright pink pair of trainers. I could have forced her into dresses and pretty shoes but she would have heavily objected and so I can see that this child felt pushed down a road.

I often think I see one of two parenting styles when it comes to very young children. Either they are very gender orientated or they go completely the other way and gender is never mentioned, yet there is still on over push with toys etc so a boy ends up with only princess dresses for example. They then go to school get told princess dresses are for girls and come to the conclusion they are a girl.

My last bit is messy but I hope readers can understand the point I'm trying to make.

Might be missing the point but if they are concerned about enrolling for school under the old name why not change it legally?

We, as a society, are moving backwards, aren't we? I grew up in the seventies and I wasn't overly keen on pigtails and 'pretty shoes' myself. What a ridiculous premise to base your child's 'gender' on. Imagine that being the starting point for a life of, first, puberty blockers, then potentially hormone tablets and operations. These parents believe they are doing what's best for their child because their own heads have been turned by gender stereotyping. They claim to be letting their child 'be who they are', when they are in fact shovelling them into a narrowly defined box of what a boy or girl 'should' be.

Thank Christ my parents didn't have a serious talk with me about my gender, but rather let me wear plimsolls and have my hair hanging down in a long, ratty mess (unless I was visiting my granny - then the bloody ribbons came out!)

Not just the parents but GP and nursery have responsibility.
So too does media who run these stories:

Miranda Yardley article:
'Common Threads And Narratives of Transgender Children And What This Means For Our Lesbian And Gay Populations'
POSTED ON 5TH MAY 2017
(extract)
"The following quotes are extracted from a selection of stories on the Daily Mail (British newspaper) website looking at young transgender males (sources are linked at the end of this piece):

They had presumed their prancing, pink-loving son who squirreled away cousins’ girl toys was gay… He wore sweatpants around his head to mimic ponytails and dressed as a princess for Halloween. And he hated boy things – especially his body.[1]

Sources said the youngster had confided in friends that he wanted to be a girl and would put on a bikini to go swimming and use a Barbie towel. He rode to primary school on a pink scooter and wore pink ribbons in his hair.[2]

While Blaine preferred playing with trucks and cars, Keat liked dolls. At school he liked playing dress up with the princess dresses… Keat was so happy in her skin but I dreaded that first day back at school where she would be going back to class with pigtails and a pink backpack.[3]

She grew her hair out, pierced her ears, and wore dresses everywhere – even to kindergarten… growing up Jazz’s bedroom was filled with girly things – pink bed linen, a closet filled with dresses and an ample collection of stuffed animals.[4]

When she chats with people, she introduces herself as, “Hi, I’m Sadie, my favorite color is pink, I’m vegan, and I’m transgender. Who are you?”‘ Sage said.[5]

“I’m wishing for the one I love to find me!” the preschooler would enthusiastically sing into the toilet, copying Snow White, who sings into the echoing wishing well in the animated Disney movie. Six months after her second birthday, her parents say Ryan was drawn to all things pink and sparkly. Ryan, the boy, wore pajama pants on his head, pretending it was long hair, or acted out girl roles from movies.[6]

Danann Tyler, who was born male but now dresses as a little girl and has long hair,… he never had any interest in the toys his elder brother Liam had loved. His sippy cup had to be pink. When a family friend playing dress up put him in a princess gown, he refused to take it off.[7]

The commonality of these narratives is striking, within these seven stories mention is made of the following: a preference for pink (7/7), hair (6/7), princesses and dresses (5/7), ‘toys for girls’ (5/7)." (continues)
mirandayardley.com/en/common-threads-and-narratives-of-transgender-children-and-what-this-means-for-our-lesbian-and-gay-populations/