Britain's youngest trans child

@NecessaryScene1 my family are vegetarian. Just as a Muslim family eats halal. This philosophy doesn't cause them harm and when they are adults they can choose for themselves. The same as in the west people generally have a philosophy it's ok to eat farm animals and not dogs and bring their children up this way.

This is very different from telling a child they are the opposite sex which has mental and physical harms as a result.

Just would appreciate it if people didn't equate it.

And I am aware cats can't be vegan. That's why we have rabbits.

The ones that plaster vegan FB pages and yet you know they still use leather shoes 🤦‍♀️

It’s nothing to do with true vegans and those doing it for the right reason and everything to do with bandwagon vegans.

Oh FFS, our nephew wanted to be Stephanie, not Sportacus, when he was 4 because he loved dancing like a cheerleader. Should he have been counselled?

He’s 18 now and very much in love with his girlfriend. Still loves dancing like a cheerleader.

As said before, my comment was not at the vegan cat comment. It was at the I bet they're vegan comment.
Different sentiment.

Kids accept what you tell them at that age - as the child grows the questions will be trickier and harder to answer. Who decided if this child goes on drugs on the pathways to surgery later on?

There's been a big increase in people being more consciousness with meat sure, whether buying a bit less, going vegetarian or vegan.
The increase will be a mix and imo there's nothing wrong with following a trend for good reasons (for example some people want to buy less meat and eat higher welfare when they do because they care about the environment/welfare).
People simply eating differently to follow a trend can't be vegan by definition because the motivation is animal welfare and not to be cool/health/the environment.
So yes, a huge number of people aren't vegan because that's not their motivation. They are plant based. And I may have been vegan a long time, but DH is more recent. You'd lump him in as a trend follower but 40+ men don't get anything but grief for going veg so would seem a poor motivation to me.
But again, changing your diet has nothing to do with gender ideology, so bringing it up as a dig is dismissive.

Utter nonsense.

Well, of you knew anything about being vegan you'd know it was a philosophical way of living and not a trend.

And that's the point. 4-year-olds and cats do not have philosophical ways of living. Their parents/owners do.

How is this not child abuse?

It was less the vegan cat comment that I thought was a swipe than the 'I bet they're vegan too' comment. It's dismissive of a whole group of people who largely have no interest in gender ideology.
And I notice vegan as a trend was picked, not coloured hair, cropped tops, Tik tok users or any other trend.
I just find it comes across as rather bitchy.

It’s nothing derogatory towards true vegans (if you’ve been one for 30 years then clearly I’m not referring to you) it’s simply about some people proclaiming they are buy only because it’s seen as fashionable now.

am so proud that he knows who he is and isn't constrained by societal norms and prejudices

Have they said this to be ironic?

I don’t think it’s necessarily a swipe at vegans - more that the cat has been made vegan by those who have the power to do so, despite the cat being a cat who would probably eat mice and wasps if left left to its own devices. The cat doesn’t have a choice but probably once had a nibble of a soya burger.

‘Showed signs of being a boy at 18 months’ a news report said (also ‘assigned at birth’).

‘Eh?’ And ‘eh?????’

Well, of you knew anything about being vegan you'd know it was a philosophical way of living and not a trend.
What you're talking about is being plant based.
And you may see it how you like, but having a swipe at a group that has nothing to do with gender ideology is pretty unfair.

I despair. I have twin girls age 6 and when they were 4 one of them loved pink and sparkles. The other hated all pink sparkly stuff and loved fire engines. It means nothing, kids go through phases. The former fire engine loving twin now has a penchant for pink princess dresses and wants long hair. Former little miss pink and sparkly has short her hair (her choice) and loves her mud kitchen and nerf guns.

Kids should just be kids without gender based nonsense.

I didn’t mean they like attractive things don’t know what that was meant to say but I think most of it makes sense lol

Can I ask why some people are comparing this scenario to being vegan as if being a vegan is somehow abusive

@ImprobablePuffin

In answer to your question, it’s simply because currently pronouncing yourself as vegan is seen as a desired thing to do. People jump on the bandwagon in the same way (I believe) some parents think ya cool to say ‘My DC is non binary, we don’t use gender’ and the like.

At 4 years of age this is the parents doing. I mean why is it even news? Because people crave attention and like attractive things do following a trend, such as the current vegan trend, it’s as if it makes them cool.

This reply this reply from @LadyBuffOfBuffdonia is absolute nonsense and so far off the point it’s certainly not answering your question.

I believe people think it's the epitome of weird.
I decided I wanted to stop eating meat at six. My family all ate meat but my mum let me.
The difference between this and a trans kid is being vegetarian had no negative impact on my life or health apart from people making stupid comments.
Making fun of vegans is a national pastime. I've been the butt of jokes for 30+ years now.
Mmmm bacon

Kid not last*

To be fair if the last d picked the new name I'm just surprised she didn't end up as 'boy' the boy.
Stormy sounds like something a small child might come up with. This is why you don't get kids to name siblings.

Not sure of its origin, but Stormé DeLarverie was born in 1920 and I’m pretty sure that was her birth name.

From reading the article it looks that way to me too @Marguerite2000