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TW: Laila Mickelwait: [children pay] a devastating price for an unchecked Big Porn sex crime industry.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 04/05/2021 15:01

TikTok took down this young woman's first video in which she shared screenshots of her father's searches.

Teen discovered her father googling “real” “homemade” “teen” “rape” videos & “father daughter” incest abuse videos on the world’s largest porn tube sites.

The kids of this generation are paying a devastating price for an unchecked Big Porn sex crime industry.

twitter.com/LailaMickelwait/status/1389217984753946627

In various ways, this has been cropping up, recently. Some of us must be in relationships with, work with/alongside/for/supervise people who search for this material and actively exploit trafficked people.

What is it like for children to discover that a parent or other close relative does this? How do we expect children to engage with a society in which such people live among us? How do we expect VAWG to be addressed as the public health problem it is when social media is set up to facilitate this industry?

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JediGnot · 05/05/2021 11:23

Just to be clear - I posted without clicking the link - I have just clicked on the link very briefly.

If this is true - "He gave her sleeping pills, drugs, and alcohol, and she said shes woken up with him in her bed multiple times... and he took her to see 50 shades of grey when she was 9" then that is clearly MASSIVELY CONCERNING (understatement of the decade). If he's googling with any intent to find real child porn or videos of rape then ditto, MASSIVELY CONCERNING to put it mildly.

And even if everything he did was above board then putting his daughter in the position of having concerns about the past due to a knowledge of the search history is unforgiveable.

JediGnot · 05/05/2021 11:18

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

TikTok took down this young woman's first video in which she shared screenshots of her father's searches.

Teen discovered her father googling “real” “homemade” “teen” “rape” videos & “father daughter” incest abuse videos on the world’s largest porn tube sites.

The kids of this generation are paying a devastating price for an unchecked Big Porn sex crime industry.

twitter.com/LailaMickelwait/status/1389217984753946627

In various ways, this has been cropping up, recently. Some of us must be in relationships with, work with/alongside/for/supervise people who search for this material and actively exploit trafficked people.

What is it like for children to discover that a parent or other close relative does this? How do we expect children to engage with a society in which such people live among us? How do we expect VAWG to be addressed as the public health problem it is when social media is set up to facilitate this industry?

It seems like there are three entirely different issues here -

(1) The "teen" finding the search history. No-one wants to know that their dad watches porn, and they really don't want to know that they specifically seek out "father daughter incest" and "rape" as search terms.

(2) The acceptability of porn generally. Is consuming porn acceptable ever? Is it acceptable but only in very specific cases (eg women-friendly porn made by women is surely much less problematic than typical male-focussed porn.)

(3) The specific porn that he was looking at. Personally I cannot understand why anyone, male or female, would seek out "rape porn". Nor can I see what is arousing about incest porn. Nor can I see what is arousing about under-aged girls. BUT, being fucking kinky is not a crime and nor should it be. I believe that it is a reasonable expectation that if you are on one of "the world’s largest porn tube sites" the content should be and will be legal, which means watching -

(a) Performers acting out rape fantasies

(b) Performers acting out incest fantasies

(c) Adults who are young and look younger playing to society's obsession with youth (and let's be realistic, men are driven by biological urges to impregnate, so it's hardly surprising that men are attracted to relative youth).

I have no problem with people arguing against all porn, or almost all porn - on the other hand I think the idea that it might go away is utterly ludicrous. Getting caught by your daughter - dreadful, and a thousand times worse if you've googled teen and incest and rape. But I'm not sure what the bloke has really done wrong other than being kinky AF in a way I don't understand, and getting caught.

If he's looking for reality rape / incest / paedophile porn then the guy needs serious help and punishment, but I don;t see the evidence that he is.

FightingTheFoo · 05/05/2021 10:56

Not gonna click on the Twitter thread but it does remind me of one of Hugh Hefner's ex girlfriends who said she wanted to be a Playboy model after discovering a stack of her dad's Playboy magazines and thinking all the women in them were so beautiful etc.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 05/05/2021 10:53

I think that I was most struck by the difference between children finding porn in the house or having family members who behave inappropriately and in a way just thinking, "Oh, porn" (so to speak) - and the difference in seeing somebody's search history and viscerally feeling its match to you as an individual and your family dynamics.

And that's setting aside the young woman's recollection of times she may well have been drugged.

I'm not articulating this well. It feels very different to me - and I say that as somebody who grew up in an area where the women and children were perceived as objects for sexual consumption.

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MissBarbary · 04/05/2021 16:57

That girl needs guidance and her father needs mercy. 2nd paragraph doesnt seem cogent with 1st one. She's not a vigilante with a cause, she has a broken communication with her father and that's rather devastating

My jaw dropped at this idiotic response.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 04/05/2021 16:14

It really is. That poor girl. I hope she has cut all contact with him now.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 04/05/2021 15:18

TikTok removed the first one - the young woman's current one with names and some terms obscured is available in that Twitter thread.

It's still a horror.

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QuentinBunbury · 04/05/2021 15:15
Shock I'm surprised TikTok removed it. Must be more serious to have an allegation like this against a man than all the other dubious content on there Hmm