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BBC Sewing Bee

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Davros · 03/05/2021 20:36

They regularly mention the differences between male and female bodies. How has this been allowed to slip through?

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Davros · 13/05/2021 18:49

I thought Farie might be southern. She sounds quite posh via Zimbabwe so could be from anywhere here

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Zandathepanda · 13/05/2021 13:24
Grin
Cagedbirdsinging · 13/05/2021 13:15

Come for the haberdashery terminology , stay for the feminism Smile

Abitofalark · 13/05/2021 12:34

Poppers? I call them snap fasteners. www.empressmills.co.uk/haberdashery/fasteners/snap-fasteners.
This company also lists something called press fasteners. Not sure whether press studs is another name for the same thing.

NutellaEllaElla · 13/05/2021 10:21

Yes I wondered if they decided against saying poppers for the drug reason.

BaronessBomburst · 13/05/2021 10:11

Fairie sounds like a Southerner? I missed the first few episodes so don't know where they're all from.

ShagMeRiggins · 13/05/2021 10:01

Re poppers, — I think it’s a regional thing.

You can search online for popper shirts or bags, but get equal results searching snap shirts or bags.

Plus, ‘poppers’ has taken on an additional meaning (amyl nitrate etc) so it’s possibly falling out of use in the sewing world.

EBearhug · 13/05/2021 09:56

I've been in thousands of meetings where 'thanks gentlemen' has been used (including one already this morning) and I'm pretty sure I'll survive.

I point it out when they do this. It's good for all the "gentlemen" to remember women can work in IT, too. Though I find saying,"Hello everyone ", "thanks everybody," tends not to offend anyone, so it requires least thought and thus is the option I tend to go for.

I know a family my age (so late 40s), where all the babies were dressed in dresses, just as their Victorian forebears had been. Though even in the '70s, they were considered odd and distinctly old-fashioned for this (so I learnt when it came up about a decade later - I don't remember it being a baby myself.)

NewlyGranny · 13/05/2021 09:34

On the babies in dresses aspect, my own grandfather, born on a Leicestershire farm in 1879, grew up with only one memory of his mother, who died of typhoid from contaminated well water when DGF was about 5 years old.

His memory was of being scolded for getting his petticoats muddy when he was playing in the farmyard and fell over.

When I knew him - and he was nearly 80 when I was born - he was always clad in three piece tweed suits, so clearly no harm done!

A lovely man.

Zandathepanda · 13/05/2021 09:30

Joe Lycett said on HIGNFY last week that, (something like) in interests of BBC being impartial so now being a bit right wing to balance the left out, the sewing bee was full of poofers and old women. GrinShockGrin. Although it actually has a couple of young women in it this year and one straight man, it was very funny him saying it so deadpan.

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Davros · 13/05/2021 09:16

AnotherSunrise are you seeing my sarcasm and raising it with your irony?
There was a lesbian in this series but she left quite early. I don't mind the hoardes of gay men, presumably they are highly represented in the home sewing community but it is noticeable! However, where are the Southerners? I don't think there's a single one this time

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NutellaEllaElla · 13/05/2021 07:10

@Smidge001 there is a thread here, just in case you want to join as well

Kotatsu · 13/05/2021 06:29

I remember one of the designers on Project Runway absolutely losing it and ranting because he hated having to make clothes for a normal woman (the challenge where they bring in a group of non-models and the designer has to collaborate to make a garment for her that she actually likes) - there were gestures about the bits he particularly found difficult (all the curvy bits) vs. the rather more uniformly up and down models he preferred.

AnotherSunrise · 13/05/2021 01:17

@Davros

They regularly mention the differences between male and female bodies. How has this been allowed to slip through?
But they are different...
Cagedbirdsinging · 13/05/2021 01:15

Lovely , @Smidge001.
Pleased to meet you .

Smidge001 · 12/05/2021 23:41

Ahh that's kind, thank you. After having read the full thread now I might just do that after all. Smile

Cagedbirdsinging · 12/05/2021 23:19

@Smidge001 ...come back ...pull up a chair...it's good here and there's cake and everything Cake

2Rebecca · 12/05/2021 22:24

Agree they are poppers. The sewing bee is great but I agree it needs fewer gay men and more lesbians.

exwhyzed · 12/05/2021 21:54

@Itwasjustresting

So they’ve just pointed out that boy babies used to wear dresses.

These days if a toddler or small child wants to wear a dress that’s evidence that it identifies as a girl.

To me this just proves that our expectations of gender behaviour are set by society not by anything innate.

Winston Churchill and Teddy Roosevelt might actually have been trans kids it seems....
Itwasjustresting · 12/05/2021 21:46

So they’ve just pointed out that boy babies used to wear dresses.

These days if a toddler or small child wants to wear a dress that’s evidence that it identifies as a girl.

To me this just proves that our expectations of gender behaviour are set by society not by anything innate.

Smidge001 · 12/05/2021 21:22

Sorry think I'm in the wrong thread - I just searched for sewing bee and assumed this was in the tv section, just realised it's in feminism Grin. Will try and find a TV conversation instead...

Smidge001 · 12/05/2021 21:21

What the heck is with calling poppers 'snaps'??? This is really annoying me!

LostToucan · 05/05/2021 10:49

@Quincie

I like the sewing bee - great entertainment - but I thought the BBC was all for inclusiveness - are there any straight males on the show?
In a previous series they had a senior Army officer who made ball gowns for his wife and I think he made a wedding dress for his driver?

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1Fmf0gSXmwN8wwwRlVRSjrH/neil

NutellaEllaElla · 05/05/2021 10:39

Tbh I think this works to a wider issue of virtue signalling and policing language unnecessarily. It's small fry how someone starts a post to address a majority female group and to pay so much attention to it is a waste of time and effort.

Sometimes words are important. Not really in this case.

EdinburghFeminist · 05/05/2021 10:36

@MrsBunHat

Yes I think guys does have a meaning of males, but it’s also used for any group of people eg I can be with a group of all women and someone will say “hi guys”. I have a friend who uses it to address her DDs. I don’t think that’s like “man” being used to mean “all humans”, as it can be used for just women, but maybe in a slightly jokey way. Hmm not sure now!
See I think it’s just like man being used to mean all humans. I understand that people don’t necessarily mean it as being universally male but it does reinforce the ‘default male’ nature of so many things.
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