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What question can I ask election candidates to ascertain their views on women’s rights

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I0NA · 03/05/2021 12:43

I’m in Scotland and we have parliamentary elections this week.

What simple questions can I ask candidates about this. I don’t think the Stanisland question will work here.

I know the Conservative party candidate is GC but I’d rather not vote Tory if I have another option.

I’m a long term SNP voter but sadly can no longer vote for them.

I’d vote Labour if they stood up for women and children.

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KCMinPS1 · 26/06/2021 16:26

OPENER:
I am politically homeless and deciding who to vote for in the election.
I take a gender critical position, which means that I do not believe it is possible to change sex.
I believe change rooms, rape shelters, sports, prisons are currently single-sex to protect women's safety, privacy and dignity - and these should remain so.

Change Rooms (Stanisland):
Do you believe that male-sexed people have the right to undress and shower in a communal changing room with teenage girls?

Science & Policy Coercion:
Do you believe that by saying "I identify as a woman" that a man is identical to a female bodied woman? No differences? This is what the law now requires. Should, Canadians, by force of the government, be required to ACT like they believe this?

Sports:
Males are physically stronger, faster and taller than women. No one in this room would deny that Truth. Is it then fair OR safe for men identifying as women to compete with women in sport? Hockey?

Prisons:
85% of VIOLENT crimes are committed by men. Explain how the Canadian Government allows a man convicted of a violent crime, including rape, to say 5 words "I identify as a woman" and then he must legally be treated as a female. Meaning - the right to transfer to a female prison where the living arrangements are not all single-cells but communal living pods, exposing women to live with rapists.

Language:
In British Columbian government has ELIMINATED the word mother. The government is forcing WORDS into its citizens mouths, by re-naming women Birthing Parent, Pregnant Persons, Chest Feeder, can you please explain to me how this is not Dehumanizing and Coercive to Women and Mothers?

Don't claim that biological sex can be changed by an idea in your head, as truth, in order to be inclusive, because the harms you have inflicted on 50 % of Canadians by sacrificing women and girls safety, dignity, and privacy, is real.

smellycats · 05/05/2021 14:20

In Scotland a very good guide to candidates' views is whether or not they've signed the Equality Network LGBTI pledge which amongst other things asks them to commit to GRA reform.

Interesting. In my area, the Tory candidate has signed it, but the Labour candidate hasn't. After Brexit, I'd never give the Tories my vote - never ever again - so at least I don't have to spoil my ballot.

WithLargeTableMouse · 04/05/2021 23:44

www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/
It’s probably far too late now but I’m signed up to Women’s Human Rights Campaign and they sent a list of 5 questions to ask candidates, unfortunately the questions are on an attached word document which I can’t copy and paste on my phone, well I could but as I say, it’s a bit late now. Anyway, just in case it does help, here’s the links.
If you live in Scotland please visit forwomen.scot/

If you live in Wales please visit merchedcymru.wales/

If you live in London Safe Schools Alliance have produced question for the Mayoral candidates safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2021/03/26/london-mayoral-elections-2021-our-5-questions/

I think I’m going to be spoiling my ballot for the first time in my life Sad

morningtoncrescent62 · 04/05/2021 23:20

In Scotland a very good guide to candidates' views is whether or not they've signed the Equality Network LGBTI pledge which amongst other things asks them to commit to GRA reform. The Equality Network have helpfully uploaded a list of who's signed, so you can look up the candidates in your constituency. If they're not there, they're safe to vote for! As far as I can tell the most divided party is Scottish Labour - some of them are deeply in thrall to gender woo, others are strongly in favour of women's sex-based rights, and some are determinedly staying on the fence. Luckily for me, my Labour candidate is one who supports women's rights. I still haven't worked out what which party to vote for in the list election though.

www.equality-network.org/scottish-lgbti-equality-pledge/candidates2021/

Undersnatch · 04/05/2021 22:37

That’s great, I0NA, which party is he from? I don’t know what to do. Never in a million years would I vote Tory, ballot would be spoiled first.

I0NA · 04/05/2021 22:31

@EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology I know it’s a really hard decision, isn’t it?

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EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 04/05/2021 14:37

@I0NA, I want to vote for the candidate that knows what a woman is, but I've never voted Conservative in my life.

OTOH, if I don't vote Labour or Lib Dem or Green, which I normally would have done in the past, the candidate-who-knows-what-a-woman-is will benefit from that, albeit in a lesser way.

I0NA · 04/05/2021 13:05

@EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology has the reply changed how you vote?

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EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 04/05/2021 11:54

I'm in England. Local and PCC elections in two days.

I've had just one reply to my emails. It arrived last night, and was in agreement with my views on the importance of sex-based rights and safeguarding.

It was from the Conservative candidate.

Still fuck all from Lib Dem and Labour, despite them enthusiastically pursuing my vote via leaflets, letters and emails and asking voters to raise issues with them!

Tibtom · 04/05/2021 11:38

The other thing to remember is the SNP vote en masse

I0NA · 04/05/2021 11:35

Well I have a result ! I got an actual phone call from one of the candidates, who spent about 20 mins discussing the issues I raised.

I suspected he was GC because of his comments on the issues or unisex toilets in two local primary schools. He is against men in women’s prisons, female patients / nursing home residents not being able to choose female carers for intimate care and various other issues.

He told me that women should not have to give up their hard fought rights for others.

He’s a bit unclear about the whole gender v sex thing but said he has been following what has happened with Joanna Cherry and was appalled at the treatment of such a prominent lesbian by ( some of the ) LGBTQ community.

So I’m delighted to have someone I can use my first vote for ( second vote already decided ) .

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Babdoc · 04/05/2021 08:13

Absolutely, Tibtom. Any candidate’s views on women’s rights would be irrelevant if Scotland is dragged out of the UK. We would all be subject to wokery and TWAW, with no right of appeal to the UK supreme court.
That is why the constitution trumps all else in this election. We have to vote to stay in the UK to preserve what rights we still have.

Tibtom · 03/05/2021 21:54

But I’m not sure that the Conservative Government in Westminster are exactly a shining beacon for women’s rights. So it’s not as simple as vote Tory and we will be ok.

I agree which is why it is so worrying that they are the best of the bad lot. But currently they are. In addition union means uk laws still apply. Independence would mean the SNP could do away with the Equality Act.

EdinburghFeminist · 03/05/2021 21:44

I’ve emailed three candidates the following:
am trying to decide who to vote for.

Can you tell me what your position is on the following:

  • should women/girls be able to request intimate services are provided by a female health care professional (someone observed as female at birth for the avoidance of doubt)? Similarly for counselling services.
  • should crime data be collected on the basis of sex - ie should rapists who declare themselves to be trans be allowed to serve their sentence in a women’s prison and should the crime of rape be recorded as having been committed by a woman?
  • should I be able to state that women do not have penises without fear of legal repercussion?
I0NA · 03/05/2021 21:23

I understand that you are very pro union @Babdoc. But I’m not sure that the Conservative Government in Westminster are exactly a shining beacon for women’s rights. So it’s not as simple as vote Tory and we will be ok.

My point was more about how we can find out about candidates views on this matter that I think we can agree is important to us all, regardless of party allegiances.

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Babdoc · 03/05/2021 18:50

Or you could just save time and effort and vote Conservative, OP.
Anything else risks giving the SNP an excuse for a wretched independence referendum.
And in the tinpot bankrupt woke republic of Scottistan, women’s rights would be nonexistent.

I0NA · 03/05/2021 17:16

Sorry that last post wasn’t very well structured but hope it makes sense Blush

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I0NA · 03/05/2021 16:50

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I’ve emailed asking about the safety, privacy and dignity of

Girls school toilets ( this has been an issue locally )
Men in women’s prisons
Women in residential care not being allowed to object to male carers for intimate care

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transsloth · 03/05/2021 14:08

I fear they may think that I’m a person who SUPPORTS the rights of adult men to change and shower with teenage girls.

Dear xx

I am currently deciding who to vote for in the election. I take a gender critical position which means that I do not believe it is possible to change sex and that services that are currently single sex to protect women's privacy and dignity should remain so.

Bearing this in mind, what is your response to ... standiland question.

Mn753 · 03/05/2021 14:00

Ask them what a woman is?

Or if a male rapist identifies as a woman, is it recorded in female rates? And should the victim be made to refer to him as female? And should he be housed in a women's prison?

EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 03/05/2021 13:54

Similar position here, @I0NA.

Maybe the question is, with what message will I spoil my ballot? Perhaps 'Woman: Adult Human Female'. One word against each candidate's name.

If you also put an emoji or other symbol against one candidate's name, it makes it more likely the candidates and agents will be shown it by the returning officer, to agree whether it not it's an acceptable attempt to vote.

It'll be rejected - but seen.

That's my plan, anyway.

(I've experience of a lot of election counts.)

I0NA · 03/05/2021 13:01

@EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology

I haven't received answers to emails asking the politest, most basic questions about safeguarding, so I'm close to thinking that they can all go fuck themselves.

I might try one more maybe today. Possibly about girls' sports in local schools.

Yes I’m prepared for that outcome. And then sadly I will need to spoil my ballot.

It’s one of my children’s first election as a voter and they are upset there’s no one they can vote for. I’ve dragged them along with me for every single election and given them The Talk about why we all should Vote.

Now they have a Vote and no one to vote for.

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Cagedbirdsinging · 03/05/2021 13:00

I'm having the same problem here in Wales . Plaid Cymru is firmly
'self ID' now and I'm not voting for them because of this .
There is no reasonable political alternative ....I'm probably going to spoil my ballot paper in protest .

EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 03/05/2021 12:57

I haven't received answers to emails asking the politest, most basic questions about safeguarding, so I'm close to thinking that they can all go fuck themselves.

I might try one more maybe today. Possibly about girls' sports in local schools.

I0NA · 03/05/2021 12:56

@transsloth

I don’t think the Stanisland question will work here.

Why not? It's a really specific example of what happens with self-id.

I think you definitely need to give really specific situations, e.g. should crimes be recorded by self-identified gender or biological sex? Even domestic abuse? Rape?

If you just ask about protecting women and girls you will get lovely words that could mean anything, e.g. girls meaning girls and boys.

I fear they may think that I’m a person who SUPPORTS the rights of adult men to change and shower with teenage girls.
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