New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis

What is the purpose of a GRC? Why are they needed? I don't see why it's necessary to have legal rights based on something that isn't true.

The GRA (2004, I think) brought in the "legal fiction" of a change of sex, so that people could stay married. It was a piece of legislation before equal marriage.

I think it's fair enough that if someone is so ill/distressed by their sex that one solution is to seek to mitigate the effects by living as/presenting as the other sex. And then to be able to have legal rights against discrimination on the basis of being transgender.

The Equalities Act still allows for birth sex to be a factor in some cases - proportionate means to a legitimate end. Single sex safe spaces for women, such as refuges and rape crisis centres completely fit this category.

But the whole thing has become so muddied by the push for self-identification (I'm a woman because I say I am) and many organisational & institutional policies which assume self-id. Unlawfully in some cases eg this one.

This. This is what is is. This is the endgame of trans activism. Women are not allowed to be uncomfortable or have a female space. Even if abused by males, even when traumatised.

Males like their women abused and traumatised, as the annals of history show us. Makes us easier to control. This new trojan horse strategy is an absolute corker.

Oh look, the unthinkable has happened. Again. Just another day in Gender Ideology News Land.

Scotland still has to abide by The Equality Act.

The equality act is anti-discrimination. It's not about the right to single-sex spaces/roles.

Single-sex references exist within it only as an exception to say that sex discrimination is still permitted to allow single-sex spaces for good reasons, such as rape counselling, or sports.

But there's nothing in it saying organisations have to use the leeway it gives them permitting single-sex spaces. It doesn't guarantee female-only rape centres or female-only sports.

It's the product of a saner time when it was obvious some things would be single sex, so you didn't need to legislate for that.

Even if it were legally acceptable for a transwoman with a GRC to apply for this position, it doesn't mean it would be a morally correct thing to do.

If you know that traumatised women specifically state that a single sex environment is preferable, and you know that your presence may distress a sizeable proportion of the women a rape crisis centre is there to ostensibly support, why would you put yourself there?

Even if most women were okay with it (they aren't) why would you risk re-traumatising the ones who need a space free of male bodies?

It's fairly obvious why, of all people, rape victims may wish a space free of male bodies, even if this is only for a specific time and reason.

Why would you not respect that?

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Looking forward to hearing Women's Aid's latest comment on single sex spaces.

www.womensaid.org.uk/consultation-on-single-sex-service-provision/

This is happening because no one is brave enough to say "no" to Mridul.

That is the sole reason behind me losing my rights - because people in positions of power and influence have not listened to women and then, if they have, they are not brave enough to take on the ire of the TRA.

Well, fine. They can deal with the ire of women instead.

Sorry, that was to Tommy.

I think so, but this is one of the weaknesses of The Equality Act. People can break the law, then we have to do the fundraising to pay for justice; and a woman who has been affected by the decision has to be the one to raise her head above the parapet.

I am absolutely raging at this, how dare the Edinburgh rape crisis employ this person who has no right to this job. This person has no integrity

No, even with a GRC the position is open to women only. Scotland still has to abide by The Equality Act.

Can I ask (possibly a daft question), if MW did have a GRC (comments up thread suggest that's not the case) would that then mean MW could not be excluded from the role under the Genuine Occupational Requirement? Is this what the recent vote in the Scottish Parliament was about? Sorry, I really feel I should know this but find it quite confusing!

'A country that cannot give a raped woman whatever the fuck she wants to make her circumstances a bit less shit is not a civilised country'
Research indicates that would include the training of enough female forensic examiners to meet demand

This is a person who has routinely lied about their birth sex. No GRC AFAIK.

Heartbreaking. What is the future for us? Why are people so very stupid?

A country that cannot give a raped woman whatever the fuck she wants to make her circumstances a bit less shit is not a civilised country
As above.

But apparently a transwoman's right to be seen as a woman trumps all natal women's rights to be treated with consideration. Because we don't fucking matter. We don't fucking matter.

The Equality Act is not devolved, though, as far as I know the ScotGov can't just change the definitions as it pleases. (IANAL, and they seem to have done exactly this, anyway.)

The protected characteristic of gender reassignment only goes one way afaik, so you can't be discriminated against because you are not undergoing it, only because you are. I'm guessing a male couldn't claim sex discrimination because a male got the role. A woman could, but they would probably argue that MW was a better hire. I'm not sure what that leaves really, though it seems morally dodgy as hell.

I also think the board seems worryingly inexperienced. In England the RCCs go through a quality assurance process, I don't know about Scotland though.

What the absolute fuck! Comparing BME women to Trans. Fuck off!!!!!!!

Isn’t there a FOI that says that ScotGov considers women to mean mixed sex unless the law explicitly excludes males?
(Of course as it’s so ridiculous hardly any legislation includes the clarification that women = adult human females.)

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I live in Scotland and this is far from alright. Also, a disgraceful attempt to move women of colour out of the category of women. It's another example of politicians showing their contempt for women. I'm looking at spoiling my ballot paper later this week for the first time ever because there is no-one to vote for.