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New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis

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TheFleegleHasLanded · 03/05/2021 11:00

I struggled to even come up with a title for this thread as I am so enraged I know I will get deleted and even banned if I say what I really think.

twitter.com/EdinRapeCrisis/status/1389112490215288832?s=20

New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis
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toffeebutterpopcorn · 04/05/2021 15:10

I cant see all the facebook comments - only the lovefest

Huggybear16 · 04/05/2021 15:02

Thank you @Tootsweets23, I did not see your previous post so I'm glad you did repeat yourself. Don't apologise for it, there are plenty like me that don't read the whole thread and miss important posts like this. I will use this info to reply to others on other platforms asking the same question.

I am so angry that things have gone as far as they have, not just with this case, but with the erasure of women in general. It's very unsettling that our refusal to conform to this is considered hateful.

Thank you for your reply @Lucienandjean. This is the most important issue for me right now. I don't agree with a lot of what the Conservatives have done recently, but this is too important, so I will vote accordingly. They are the only party who stand a chance against the SNP in my area.

stumbledin · 04/05/2021 14:59

Interestingly ERC have left their post on facebook up which has a large number of critical comments about their new CEO.

www.facebook.com/edinburghrapecrisis/photos/a.156340431121264/3978227878932481/?type=3&theater

stumbledin · 04/05/2021 14:56

People to complain to are the funders (as mentioned above) also who they are registered with as a charity (is it different in Scotland) and possibily other funders of the project just on the basis on good management ie advertising post being for women only as under EA and then going against that advertising. And also as I mentioned earlier Scottish Women's Aid assuming that ERC is a member organisation and their behaviour reflects badly on the RC network.

re timing of resignation of board members - you actually would need to look back and see when they were appointed. some trustee posts are only for a limited period (so that people dont get their feet under the table and start thinking it is their little fiefdom. Or it could have been that 2/3 years ago there was a crisis in management and a lot left. Not giving them a let out but way of jumping to conclusions.

Would be interesting to see the ads for the trustee vacancies. I wonder if they were advertised as being exempt under the EA?

Lucyam1 · 04/05/2021 14:39

This is unbelievable! Shocking how Scotland has been captured by Stonewall. If anyone has evidence of gender ideology being used in schools do send it my way. The Family Education Trust is compiling evidence on this indoctrination.

Tootsweets23 · 04/05/2021 14:37

Apologies for repeating myself but if anyone in Scotland is thinking of writing to anyone I'd suggest the Edinburgh Joint Integration Board - they are listed on the original job advert as funding this CEO post, and appears to have as its board members some actual grown ups who may be receptive to questions about due process, legality, safe guarding, reputations damage, appropriateness of trustees etc etc. The board of the rape crisis centre itself appears a lost cause.

The chair of the Edinburgh Joint Integration Board is Angus McCann and is on Twitter here twitter.com/ehealthangus?s=21

And the details of who they are is here www.edinburghhsc.scot/the-ijb/eijb-board-members/

GCmiddle · 04/05/2021 14:36

In the twitter thread linked to by a PP above - twitter.com/sarahstuartxx/status/1297452001291362304 (Sarah Stuart's The lies they tell) - it is reported that MW told an 'amusing' anecdote to the audience at an event they were speaking at... in it , they call themselves a 'mother of two' and say their children are fostered/adopted (it's not quite clear). They describe how they were called by a concerned headteacher, because one of the children (age 6/7) had been overheard taking to another child about 'how his mum's penis had been decapitated'. MW had laghed and asked the headteacher what the problem was.
I can tell you what I think the problem is - that it is totally inappropriate to have been talking to a vulnerable young child about the issue in the first place. I wonder who instigated the conversation?
MW seems convinced that they pass totally as a woman, so why even talk to the child in this way? Presuambly the young child did not know that their foster mum was male? Or is it blindingly obvious even to a child?

Lucienandjean · 04/05/2021 13:47

@Huggybear16 I had a similar dilemma. I sent off my postal vote yesterday and for the first time in my life I voted Conservative. Truly, they seem to be the only party who are sure what a woman is, and still have some respect for women's sex-based rights.

I'm distraught at the idea that the SNP and the Greens will hold all the power, and we all know they will use it against us. This awful appointment at the ERCC just demonstrates the problem.

Not saying I've suddenly become an ardent Tory (I haven't), but desperate times call for desperate measures. If we lose our rights, how many years will it take us to fight to get them back?

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 04/05/2021 13:41

I will no more vote for the SNP than I will grow a penis and go for being the first man on Mars.

I will do whatever it takes to try to stop these fuckers getting in.

AfternoonToffee · 04/05/2021 12:43

I know I am preaching to the converted but everytime something like this happens I think surely this is the moment people at least start to question things and start realising that it is something that people (women) have reasons for their concerns. Instead it is more digging their heels in and yelling transphobes. There doesn't even seem to be the ability to separate the concerns about this individual from their trans status. Surely one can believe TWAW and still think 'ouch, that's not the best person for the role given their recent doings.'

Huggybear16 · 04/05/2021 12:28

So is there something we can do about this?

If anyone has any sound ideas about who to write to with our concerns, I’m right there. Sadly I’m not in Scotland, and I’ll hold my hands up to not knowing all that much about the charitable sector.

I'm a woman in Scotland and would also like some ideas as to what more I can do. I have already written to Edinburgh Rape Crisis to express my disbelief/upset/anger (I don't even know how best to describe how I feel about this - flattened?).

Voting is on Thursday. I absolutely will not support the SNP. I've never voted Tory before, should I start now? I feel like I can't vote for any of these people. I'm lost and confused with this, but I will vote. Does anyone have any advice for me on this?

mermaidsariel · 04/05/2021 11:54

There needs to be a national outcry about this. It’s absolutely unbelievable.

ArabellaScott · 04/05/2021 11:31

Yes, incredible and absurd.

andyoldlabour · 04/05/2021 11:31

ArabellaScott

Thanks for that link, I think the proverbial is well and truly going to hit the fan when this is more widely known. I think it is a definite breach of the EA 2010.

PaddleBoardingMomma · 04/05/2021 11:30

I thought this was a joke... I absolutely don't have the words to describe my disappointment in this. Women will always be trampled over by men who are eager to appear like box ticking inclusives.

GettingUntrapped · 04/05/2021 11:25

I hope they don't get away with this. It's absurd.

picklemewalnuts · 04/05/2021 11:17

Apart from all the screaming alarms and outrage about the obvious inappropriateness of this appointment, the sexism is glaringly obvious.

This was a job aimed at recruiting a woman. However, no woman was to be found, as sufficiently good as Midral. So in the whole 50ish% of that region, there were no 'other' 'women' good enough.

zzizzer · 04/05/2021 11:09

Some women will want to talk to a man. One pp said she'd prefer that.

But that should be an opt in choice, and those men should be extremely well trained. They should also know that no matter how they identify, some people will find them triggering.

Meanwhile this person demonstrably lies, was apparently bored and useless to at least one victim, which makes their career progression all the more sickening.

R0wantrees · 04/05/2021 11:08

I cannot understand why people are centering the need for males to have significant roles with in womens rape crisis centre. Why would a women who have been violently raped by a man want to talk to a man about what had happened to her? Its perverse.

Not only that, at a point of accute vulnerability and trauma, women are being coerced to deny that men are not women. This is a form of abuse by proxy whereby the organisation (set up to support women who are victims of male violence) perpetrates further abuse including the removal of women's capacity to withold consent and to have boundaries.

Hotankles · 04/05/2021 11:02

When I seen this on twitter this morning it set my nerves off. I'm really struggling to put my words down coherently about how I feel about this. That some deranged human thought this person would be a one size fits all. Its also incredible they think this ticks the box for BAME women.

I cannot understand why people are centering the need for males to have significant roles with in womens rape crisis centre. Why would a women who have been violently raped by a man want to talk to a man about what had happened to her? Its perverse. Its fucking perverse. Its perverse that this person thinks they can and should lead a historical run by women for women rape crisis centre. They should be ashamed. They all should be ashamed. How dare they.

Its sickening.

Feelinghothothottoday · 04/05/2021 10:46

Very discriminatory towards a male Candidate. Not that I care really but if an organisation is going to apply an exception under the equality act it then needs to follow it otherwise it looks like to me this was done to give the successor the best chance possible with no pesky men applying.

R0wantrees · 04/05/2021 10:31

If anyone has any sound ideas about who to write to with our concerns, I’m right there. Sadly I’m not in Scotland, and I’ll hold my hands up to not knowing all that much about the charitable sector.

With Scotland's elections imminent and given the amount of funding by Scottish goernment it is a much needed and urgent challenge to candidates.

Leafstamp · 04/05/2021 10:25

@PearPickingPorky

I see Edinburgh Rape Crisis have now deleted their tweet celebrating Mridul's appointment.
Yes I noticed that. Lots of other tweets seem to have disappeared where it said something along the line of MW stands up for all women “include it trans women and BME”. (See other thread about racist statements about women).

Also from my nose on Twitter, and I answer to my own post above, it seems various organisations are hopefully on the case with getting this appointment challenged. It is clearly unlawful IMO.

PearPickingPorky · 04/05/2021 10:21

I see Edinburgh Rape Crisis have now deleted their tweet celebrating Mridul's appointment.

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