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New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis

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TheFleegleHasLanded · 03/05/2021 11:00

I struggled to even come up with a title for this thread as I am so enraged I know I will get deleted and even banned if I say what I really think.

twitter.com/EdinRapeCrisis/status/1389112490215288832?s=20

New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis
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Sophoclesthefox · 04/05/2021 20:58

Wojtek was looking particularly splendid wasn’t he Rhannion? Loved it.

Rhannion · 04/05/2021 20:51

@Huggybear16

So is there something we can do about this?

If anyone has any sound ideas about who to write to with our concerns, I’m right there. Sadly I’m not in Scotland, and I’ll hold my hands up to not knowing all that much about the charitable sector.

I'm a woman in Scotland and would also like some ideas as to what more I can do. I have already written to Edinburgh Rape Crisis to express my disbelief/upset/anger (I don't even know how best to describe how I feel about this - flattened?).

Voting is on Thursday. I absolutely will not support the SNP. I've never voted Tory before, should I start now? I feel like I can't vote for any of these people. I'm lost and confused with this, but I will vote. Does anyone have any advice for me on this?

I know how you feel, I’m political homeless too , there are lots of us here in Scotland, I don’t have a bloody clue how to vote on Thursday. As an aside it brightened the dull and shitty day here to see the suffragette colours on our lovely bear in Princes Street gardens.
littlbrowndog · 04/05/2021 20:48

Good link up above

AfternoonToffee · 04/05/2021 20:43

It's amazing that so many people saying that this is absolutely fine and berating other posters have such little grasp on the actual laws around both the Equality Act and the definition of rape.

Leafstamp · 04/05/2021 20:37

@Jacopo

Great, thanks *@Leafstamp*. So have I got this right: OSCR should be told that 1) the job was reserved to females but a transgender woman without a Gender Recognition cert got the job. And that she herself had previously stated online that she doesn’t have the GRC. And self-certification is not yet legal. And 2) other male-bodied people have potentially been disadvantaged by being discouraged from applying because of the wording of the ad.
Yep, that’s my understanding.
Jacopo · 04/05/2021 20:34

Great, thanks @Leafstamp. So have I got this right: OSCR should be told that 1) the job was reserved to females but a transgender woman without a Gender Recognition cert got the job. And that she herself had previously stated online that she doesn’t have the GRC. And self-certification is not yet legal. And 2) other male-bodied people have potentially been disadvantaged by being discouraged from applying because of the wording of the ad.

Leafstamp · 04/05/2021 20:21

@Jacopo

Umm, not sure if this has been mentioned already but if this is a registered charity which has broken the law in the way the interview/job advert process for appointing the Chief Executive has been handled -shouldn’t they be reported to OSCR?
Perfect, thanks Jacopo.

Here we are everyone:

www.oscr.org.uk/contact-oscr/charity-concern-form/

Charity number for ERCC is 0006208

You can fill the form in anonymously.

Jacopo · 04/05/2021 20:11

Umm, not sure if this has been mentioned already but if this is a registered charity which has broken the law in the way the interview/job advert process for appointing the Chief Executive has been handled -shouldn’t they be reported to OSCR?

transsloth · 04/05/2021 20:10

GCs are apparently attacking rape crisis centres. Which is rather getting the wrong end of the stick.

Anyone got a link for this?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 04/05/2021 20:09

The ad was legal. What’s illegal about it?

Unsure33 · 04/05/2021 20:08

@CatherinaJTV

The point is that the advert was not legal and discriminatory against men as well .

Fernlake · 04/05/2021 19:24

@LostToucan

GCs are apparently attacking rape crisis centres. Which is rather getting the wrong end of the stick.

All the blame I’ve seen so far is directed at the LGB Alliance.

Course it is. Fortunately, LBG alliance are made of sterner stuff.
Tootsweets23 · 04/05/2021 19:22

I'm sure someone else has made this point but aside from the racist use of BME, it is so odd that this is phrased in this way. Why drop the A (as in Asian), considering that the largest by far immigrant community in Scotland is Asian. So so odd.

AfternoonToffee · 04/05/2021 19:09

@LostToucan

GCs are apparently attacking rape crisis centres. Which is rather getting the wrong end of the stick.

All the blame I’ve seen so far is directed at the LGB Alliance.

F*cking hell. That is a pretty much a new low.
LostToucan · 04/05/2021 19:07

GCs are apparently attacking rape crisis centres. Which is rather getting the wrong end of the stick.

All the blame I’ve seen so far is directed at the LGB Alliance.

Truthlikeness · 04/05/2021 19:04

@LostToucan

The narrative will be that they were victims of a horrific pile-on by transphobes. They - ERCC - are bravely going ahead with their appointment but they have to keep their twitter account safe for their followers by deleting all the hateful bigotry in the replies to the first tweet.

This is exactly what is happening.

You can guess who is getting the blame.

GCs are apparently attacking rape crisis centres. Which is rather getting the wrong end of the stick.
MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 04/05/2021 19:02

Mridul Wadhwa has been working within the women's shelter system for years. She is eminently experienced and completely suitable for the post. This isn't a case of trans tokenism causing disadvantage for women. This is someone with all the correct qualifications and experience getting a job they can do well

If it's just a case of appointing the best person for the job, why was it advertised as only for women?

LostToucan · 04/05/2021 18:55

The quote Tweets are, let’s just say, not very supportive of Mridul.

LostToucan · 04/05/2021 18:48

The narrative will be that they were victims of a horrific pile-on by transphobes. They - ERCC - are bravely going ahead with their appointment but they have to keep their twitter account safe for their followers by deleting all the hateful bigotry in the replies to the first tweet.

This is exactly what is happening.

You can guess who is getting the blame.

LostToucan · 04/05/2021 18:46

This isn't a case of trans tokenism causing disadvantage for women. This is someone with all the correct qualifications and experience getting a job they can do well.

And yet this someone didn’t meet the stated conditions required to apply for the post?

And it wasn’t any secret that this someone didn’t meet those conditions?

I’m glad I’m not on that board of trustees.

Leafstamp · 04/05/2021 18:46

@morningtoncrescent62

Taking it down because of a huge negative reaction, then putting it up same with no effort to even address the racism points is just so transparent. Why do orgs do this? They think no one has archived? That people have no memories? That people are stupid?

The narrative will be that they were victims of a horrific pile-on by transphobes. They - ERCC - are bravely going ahead with their appointment but they have to keep their twitter account safe for their followers by deleting all the hateful bigotry in the replies to the first tweet.

I suggest people on Twitter report it for racism.
morningtoncrescent62 · 04/05/2021 18:44

Taking it down because of a huge negative reaction, then putting it up same with no effort to even address the racism points is just so transparent. Why do orgs do this? They think no one has archived? That people have no memories? That people are stupid?

The narrative will be that they were victims of a horrific pile-on by transphobes. They - ERCC - are bravely going ahead with their appointment but they have to keep their twitter account safe for their followers by deleting all the hateful bigotry in the replies to the first tweet.

Leafstamp · 04/05/2021 18:38

@CatherinaJTV @ODFOx

If we pretend for a minute that what you say is true, then ERC have still messed up twice fold:

  1. The job advert specified women only. MW is not a woman (in the eyes of the law, which is what matters here)
  1. By appointing a male person, they have discriminated against any other men who may who have wished to apply.
transsloth · 04/05/2021 18:35

@Leafstamp

This is of interest:

twitter.com/Equality_FWS/status/1389603470601293825

FWS tweeting the Funder of the role asking for answers.

It'll be interesting to see what response they get to that. This job was advertised as for women only, and self-id isn't law in the UK so a male person shouldn't have got the role.
CatherinaJTV · 04/05/2021 18:32

@ODFOx

Oh come on!

Mridul Wadhwa has been working within the women's shelter system for years. She is eminently experienced and completely suitable for the post.

This isn't a case of trans tokenism causing disadvantage for women. This is someone with all the correct qualifications and experience getting a job they can do well.

this!