Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport

Regardless of political views, Jenner can't back the TA view on sport, or Jenner would have to hand back the gold's.

Couldn't have competed as female instead when they were won - when there was no female decathlon....

When the only argument TRAs and their allies have is that there's no evidence trans girls will beat females or that the science has actually shown there's no advantage it's absolute proof that they don't care about the facts. I wonder how they would perform on a lie detector because I'm pretty sure that deep down they know they're talking shit.

I saw one response Helle saying Jenner is a drag queen.
I await the drag queens pointing at the trans umbrella.

So many times we’ve been told to shut up because it should be left to trans people to discuss trans issues. Now a trans person who is by that reasoning allowed to discuss these issues is being told to shut up.

Doesn’t matter who the messenger is no debate is the only recourse .

I saw one TRA dismissing Jenner’s athletic accomplishments by stating that “she wasn’t trans then”, which surely flies in the face of their assertion that trans is “who you truly are” and “the way you are born”.

Trans logic eats itself.

By their own standards, the TRAs are being extremely transphobic.

They believe that it is transphobic to disbelieve anyone's self-identified gender identity.

Hoist by their own petard. Or would be, if they had ever cared in the slightest for being logically consistent!

[quote zzizzer]Someone on reddit posted this, which I found interesting.

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That histogram looks just like a, erm, binary is in play. Who'd ever have suspected that?

I am sure Jenner wishes to further a political career but that does not negate the truth of the statement. Transwomen are biologically male and have an unfair advantage when competing in female sporting events.

I'm boggling at Jenner isn't trans...

Words are literal violence, we are women if we say we are, no debate - and now they're tell Jenner that they're (struggling with pronouns here, is Caitlin she?) not trans because she's done something the herd don't agree with?
So now it's we are who we say we are and you are who we say you are.
Getting out of hand now...

Yes follow up questions are required.

Finally someone making some sense. It’s the only logical stance. Science is still important.

Jenner would have been ridiculed in interviews if any other position than this was taken. It would have been an end to political campaigning. As it happens, this "surprised on the coffee run" comment is serving Jenner rather well.

Women should be demanding follow up questions about what Jenner thinks is fair for girls and women rather than celebrating crumbs.

NotBadConsidering thanks for the reminder.

Or rather, to win party support, she must take these positions.

Caitlyn is running for governor of California as a Republican.

To win, she must take these positions.

Apparently, Jenner isn't trans.

Ok. So what is Jenner? The trans umbrella now includes everyone who feels they are. And we are told we must believe people are who they say they are.

So what are they saying Jenner ‘is’ then?

During the crash, a white Lexus being driven by 69-year-old Kim Howe was shoved by Jenner's sport-utility vehicle across a centre divider and into oncoming traffic, where it was struck head-on by a Hummer.

www.smh.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/caitlyn-jenner-will-not-be-charged-over-fatal-car-crash-20151001-gjylrb.html

Ugh. What a bloody awful thing for someone to say. What an imbecile.

From one geriatric, privileged white man about another one, telling black people what they should think. Who the fuck does he think he is?

To all those angry trans out there, Caitlyn now identifies as a woman, and she is standing up for womens rights. She has therefore reached the pinnacle of being a woman. Well done her.

I think this will bring a lot of sunlight. This is a view the vast majority of people see as perfectly reasonable, and coming from a famous MTF trans celebrity. The unhinged responses on social media to this will be interesting to many people.

I literally know a full on gun-toting Black Republican who voted Trump in both elections. It's one thing to say you don't agree with him and that he is effectively a turkey voting for Christmas but to negate his Black identity because you disagree with his politics is ... crazy

Is it too early in the morning to start on the popcorn?

*Sorry, i mangled Biden's quote. So here it is verbatim:

"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't Black"

Fascinating - I thought you weren't allowed to question anyone's gender ID.

On a less amusing note, this literal cancellation of identity is par for the course on the extreme left cf. people telling Black people who don't tow the party line (eg Candace Owens) they're not Black. During the last election Biden famously said "you're not Black if you don't vote democracy".

Again, assuming PoCs/trans people etc all have homogenous political views. Any that don't conform are literally cancelled (stripped of their identity). The snake continues to eat its tail.