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Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport

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hm246 · 01/05/2021 22:33

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9533463/Caitlyn-Jenner-says-OPPOSES-trans-girls-competing-girls-sport.html

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GreyhoundG1rl · 02/05/2021 12:24

calling Caitlin transphobic.. How does this supposedly work?!

SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2021 12:21

@FightingTheFoo

From Twitter: "Caitlyn Jenner JK Rowling

rich white ladies who've come to dominate trans politics the last 6 years, even though they're both clueless about trans people & issues, & most trans people desperately want them to leave us alone."

Ah yes, both Caitlyn Jenner - a gold-winning Olympian and trans woman - and JK Rowling - a woman who once struggled with her gender - are both "clueless" and totally unqualified to speak on the topic of biological males in women's sports, spaces etc.

I wonder who that leaves who IS qualified? 🤔

Ha I saw that. It was Julia Serano wasn't it? I also saw Charlotte Clymer calling Caitlin transphobic.

So Caitlin is white huh? So are Rachel McKinnon, Julia Serano, Charlotte Clymer, Hannah Mouncey, Lauren Hubbard (who is also extremely rich)....

Erikrie · 02/05/2021 12:21

That's true. There will be plenty who won't be able to square the circle. More sunlight. The doors are being thrown open rapidly now, the lights are being switched on and it's just a case of poking around in the dusty corners to see what else is trying to scuttle away from the light and seek refuge in the shadows. It's been a long journey. And the clean up is going to take quite some time.

334bu · 02/05/2021 12:17

^people are actually going to have to figure out why they believe what they believe, rather than just parroting lines.^Somehow I suspect they still won't do this.

The problem is the mantra TWAW. If you accept that transwomen have the physical advantages of a male body, then the mantra goes out the window.

Sophoclesthefox · 02/05/2021 12:16

@Erikrie

people are actually going to have to figure out why they believe what they believe, rather than just parroting lines.

Somehow I suspect they still won't do this.

I am the eternal optimist Grin

I’m not thinking of true believers, who will merely add their contradictions on this to the logic soup that they all swim round in anyway. I’m thinking more of the “civvies” who won’t be able to square the circle that Jenner saying that male and female bodies are different somehow now means Jenner is not actually trans at all, and this must immediately override the previous version that they were told in which Jenner was always a woman.

Erikrie · 02/05/2021 12:09

people are actually going to have to figure out why they believe what they believe, rather than just parroting lines.

Somehow I suspect they still won't do this.

andyoldlabour · 02/05/2021 12:08

It didn't take long for someone on twitter to call Caitlyn a "fascist".

twitter.com/Caitlyn_Jenner/status/1388585005199228928

Sophoclesthefox · 02/05/2021 12:07

So where are all the posters here who used to so enjoy castigating gender critical women for cosying up with right wingers, because that totally makes you an anti abortion white supremacist?

I am far from a fan, but I am very much enjoying the exploding heads that Jenner is provoking on every front Grin people are actually going to have to figure out why they believe what they believe, rather than just parroting lines.

DaisiesandButtercups · 02/05/2021 12:01

So Caitlyn has been excommunicated for heresy?

Now Caitlyn is no longer entitled to speak on this issue?

So basically trans = believes and publicly promotes gender identity ideology dogma as revealed by the priesthood of activists on Twitter?

EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 02/05/2021 12:01

Biden and Harris have been such fuckwits over this.

I think the best we can hope for is some sort of commission or inquiry, and hope it doesn't get bogged down in health insurance issues rather than focus on biology, science and sports.

andyoldlabour · 02/05/2021 12:00

Wow! Well done Caitlyn.

WindyPudding · 02/05/2021 11:56

I'm left-wing and don't like republican politics at all, but it's Biden's (and Harris's) own lookout that they took the stance they did. If they fall foul of it, they should have thought about that when they decided to throw women under the bus for woke points.

You can be left-wing and stand up top this ideology - lots of us do.

R0wantrees · 02/05/2021 11:53

Its a very on-message for the Republican push back against Biden's Democrat victory.
How better to start it than with a very famous TW and Olympic champion speaking out for fairness for girls?

WindyPudding · 02/05/2021 11:53

Oh of course CJ is white and, conveniently for the purposes of being attacked by transactivists, considered female, so cannot be allowed to have an opinion.

So not trans, just a drag queen, but still female for the purposes of being shut down. hmmm...

Binglebong · 02/05/2021 11:52

@Gingernaut

TRAs are going nuts on Twitter.

Apparently, Jenner isn't trans.

How they work this Woke Big Brother 'doublethink' into their internal logic is beyond me.

Do they get how predictable they are? I called this, someone else called the ladder. I'm sure there are other predictions we are just waiting to tick off.
persistentwoman · 02/05/2021 11:48

My my. Another "off message" trans person. Good for Caitlin.

Erikrie · 02/05/2021 11:48

most trans people desperately want them to leave us alone.

Which of course is not possible when their rights are in direct conflict with women's rights. On an individual level, yes of course leave them alone. But on a policy level, absolutely cannot do.

LostToucan · 02/05/2021 11:46

Always interesting to see what is said and by whom.

It is. Which is why I tend to look at the evidence in peer reviewed scientific publications.

FightingTheFoo · 02/05/2021 11:42

From Twitter: "Caitlyn Jenner JK Rowling

rich white ladies who've come to dominate trans politics the last 6 years, even though they're both clueless about trans people & issues, & most trans people desperately want them to leave us alone."

Ah yes, both Caitlyn Jenner - a gold-winning Olympian and trans woman - and JK Rowling - a woman who once struggled with her gender - are both "clueless" and totally unqualified to speak on the topic of biological males in women's sports, spaces etc.

I wonder who that leaves who IS qualified? 🤔

Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport
PurpleWh1teGreen · 02/05/2021 11:39

Caitlin won medals by beating males. You bet she doesn’t think much of the Johnny come latelys who want an easier route.

lionheart · 02/05/2021 11:37

@LostToucan

Of course they’re all shouting about “the evidence” that transwomen/trans girls have no advantage, without being able to produce any of it.

Fortunately, plenty of people are posting the evidence of all the advantages of male physiology that are not cancelled out by hormones.

These are the links that feature in that VF article about Page:

www.transathlete.com/starthere

transequality.org/

Always interesting to see what is said and by whom.

Erikrie · 02/05/2021 11:34

Isn't it just. This is the start of the attempted cancellation of CJ.

LostToucan · 02/05/2021 11:32

The level of vitriol on Twitter is astounding.

R0wantrees · 02/05/2021 11:27

It is particularly difficult for a former male athlete who competed in the decathlon, a sex specific event, to deny that sex matters in sport.

Daly Thompson stood up for girls and women in sport a long time ago.

Erikrie · 02/05/2021 11:24

Doesn’t matter who the messenger is no debate is the only recourse

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