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Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport

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hm246 · 01/05/2021 22:33

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9533463/Caitlyn-Jenner-says-OPPOSES-trans-girls-competing-girls-sport.html

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WarriorN · 02/05/2021 07:43

Does anyone who used she and would usually use they have a reason? I wonder if it's conscious or subconscious?

I never use she now here. I have on twitter for Fionne and Seven as they've been respectful to women's causes and it's a conscious decision to do so, not as it would ban me but for them.

Thatwentbadly · 02/05/2021 07:40

@EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology

Jenner is an aspiring politician, and a Republican.

Interesting that this is part of Jenner's 'run' at a political stance. I suspect that they know it'll be popular with the actual voters rather than the twitterati & collegerati who won't be in Jenner's potential voting pool anyway.

I have been pondering this and wondering what she really thinks, it is her statement or is this just her campaign rhetoric?
EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 02/05/2021 07:40

Fox News’ Sean Hannity will sit down with Jenner for an interview airing Wednesday at 9PM/ET. - from Fox News online.

WarriorN · 02/05/2021 07:39

@UhtredRagnarson

Caitlyn was an athlete. Caitlyn knows.

This, and, has lots of daughters.

Caitlin knows.

Overdueanamechange · 02/05/2021 07:34

Surprised to have a new found respect for CJ, after thinking she was just another silly Kardashian. She is speaking as an ex athlete and a father to daughters, and is actually saying what most men I know are saying. Good for her.

DickKerrLadies · 02/05/2021 07:30

I'm assuming they think that these laws are banning trans people from sports outright.

TBF, every headline I've read about this bill claims this - that it is to 'ban trans people from sport'.

DickKerrLadies · 02/05/2021 07:28

Just heard this on the radio.

I think there's been a conscious decision to name Jenner as an 'Olympic gold medalist' without normally going into detail about the male-only event that Jenner won that medal in.

Of course, Jenner really does have the 'lived experience' to be able to say this. Is that not enough anymore?

NecessaryScene1 · 02/05/2021 07:24

However, as said, it simply doesn't work. Jenner never ever competed in women's athletics!

I don't think they think that, but it's hard to tell.

I'm assuming they think that these laws are banning trans people from sports outright.

Or maybe they're just flapping their gums and know it's all bollocks, but this the performance they feel they have to do.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 02/05/2021 07:22

Honestly, some of the transactivists just parrot the things they hear women's rights advocates saying.

They've heard us tell women like Billie Jean King and Megan Rapinoe (who support male children in girls' sport) that they're pulling the ladder up after them, because they are- they might not have had their careers if they'd competed under the rule changes they're championing.

However, as said, it simply doesn't work. Jenner never ever competed in women's athletics!

BigGreenOlives · 02/05/2021 07:20

I’m off social media like Twitter, IG & FB as part of the anti racism/abuse platform boycott this weekend; pity.

CaveMum · 02/05/2021 07:20

I have new found respect for CJ on this one. Of course she has committed High Treason in the eyes of the TRA faithful and must be punished/cancelled/show penance through self-flagellation but, from what I can see on Twitter, the replies are overwhelmingly in agreement with her.

zzizzer · 02/05/2021 07:17

Yes, this is what the reddit community call "gatekeeping" - which in this instance is something like "I made it through and am locking the gate behind me to stop others like me getting through".

Sophoclesthefox · 02/05/2021 07:14

I hadn’t understood the ladder comment at first.

I thought they were talking about CJ pulling up the ladder for acceptance for trans people in some way.

But no.

There are people out there who think CJ competed in women’s sports Confused

There was not then, and is not now a women’s Olympic decathlon event, of course.

Honestly, I’m not surprised. I was listening to a podcast the other day, and in order to honour CJs gender, they retconned CJ and Kris Jenner meeting into two women meeting and hitting it off. I had to stop listening, so I’ve no idea how they squared the circle of two women producing a biological child between them with no outside intervention.

Madness. And I’m here for it!

PandorasMailbox · 02/05/2021 07:10

Fallon Fox, the trans MMA fighter who smashed a woman's skull in, has of course accused Jenner of being a traitor Hmm

Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport
NecessaryScene1 · 02/05/2021 07:09

The sheer ignorance of the fact that caitlyn competed as a male is staggering

This is fantastic visibility.

Caitlyn Jenner is living proof that transwomen can compete in male sports. And win.

Caitlyn Jenner was always a woman, under their rules. And did not die of embarrassment at having to compete in the male category.

Everyone now has a chance to point out the idiocy and say that, sure, transwomen can do what Jenner did.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 02/05/2021 07:07

Fantastic reply though: "Ahhhh so it IS a ladder... all along we were told it was a step down into oppression".

Wtfdoipick · 02/05/2021 07:07

Someone has even claimed that with this rule caitlyn wouldn't have got to the Olympics themselves and more claim they should hand their medals back. The sheer ignorance of the fact that caitlyn competed as a male is staggering

Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport
NecessaryScene1 · 02/05/2021 07:04

Word for word!

Okay, I didn't believe Letsgetreadytocrumble. I was wrong! Blush

Yeah, cos Jenner totally participated in women's sport and is now preventing others from following the footsteps. Hmm

Sophoclesthefox · 02/05/2021 06:54

This comes as no surprise, and nor does the ensuing meltdown on Twitter Grin

I’ve got my popcorn.

The only note of caution I would sound is I’m not clear if this line of thinking only applies to children or adults.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 02/05/2021 06:53

This is exactly what I was going to say. Of course Caitlyn Jenner knows the deal here. Caitlyn will of course be accused of 'pulling up the ladder behind her' etc, but it's no coincidence that actual athletes are against this. Because they of all people know.

Word for word! I like the reply though.

Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport
Orchidflower1 · 02/05/2021 06:48

@Eminybob

Never thought I’d agree with something Caitlin Jenner has to say. But she’s not wrong.
This!!
zanahoria · 02/05/2021 06:39

She has achieved one thing, which is very important in US elections

She is now the only candidate that people are talking about

It was hugely important when Arnie ran, other candidates could not get their campaigns off the ground.

NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob · 02/05/2021 06:32

I was glad to see this.

zanahoria · 02/05/2021 06:28

... makes political as well as actual common sense

It is an attempt to find the some centre ground on the issue

Most importantly, she has conceded the need for debate, which is the only way to stop the madness. Many others will now step up and say "this is not fair"

hm246 · 02/05/2021 06:17

Not seen one tweet mention about trans boys competing in boys sports only trans girls in girls......wonder why 🤔

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