Caitlyn Jenner OPPOSES trans girls competing in girls sport

The BBC headline on this might be better than usual but the article itself is still unbalanced. If it was to be an echo of the article covering Elliot Page’s interview with Oprah they would have ended the article on CJ’s quote that it ‘wasn’t fair’.

At the bottom of the article about CJ’s thoughts the BBC then link to the article covering EP’s interview, saying that EP had said banning trans kids from sports will mean kids will die. I notice they haven’t similarly updated EP’s article with a link to the one covering CJ’s thoughts for balance.

Fallon fox calling CJ a traitor. Somehow, (and I'm not a fan of CJ) I can't see CJ thinking that breaking a woman's skull and ending her career as being in the remit of acceptable behaviour.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/caitlyn-jenner-opposes-trans-girls-competing-in-girls-sports/

Also powerful, famous people, especially those who know what they’re talking about as in this case, daring to face down the ideology with reality is really important in turning the tide. It shows people they’re actually allowed to have sensible, reasoned, fairness-based thoughts.

It’s not good how left/right this argument has become in the US but I hope that falls away over time as more people speak up. Navratilova is left-wing.

Someone on reddit posted this, which I found interesting.

https://boysvswomen.com/#/

I have three major concerns (well I have a few others but these dominate my worries): The first is this
the second is mixing in hospital -which is impractical as well as wrong FOR BOTH PARTIES because our intrinsic bodies adapted or not have different affects on disease & treatment, & privacy & dignity should be paramount.
Thirdly because sadly whether or not someone is genuine with the best of intentions there will always be an opportunity for predators to take the opportunity to harm vulnerable people. Especially when there is no safeguard to check & an assumption that if someone says they are trans they must always be genuine - even though their recent previous lifestyle provides no evidence of this.
basically its the safeguarding/safety situations

Well CJ certainly would understand this.

Caitlyn Jenner is the only trans person I know that doesn't want rights

Oh yes, multimillionaire and global celebrity who is friends with Trump doesn't have any rights at all

I should have specified that transmen to compete in the female category only if they have not taken testosterone.

See here for the case of wrestler Mack Beggs who competed against girls/young women in competitions although asking to compete against boys/young men:

Mack was a transgender boy in Texas who had competed against boys in high school and did very well. When he wanted to wrestle boys at the Varsity level in his Junior year, he was told he had to wrestle girls. He stated that it was not fair to the girls and that he would rather win or lose in fair matches against boys. The state did not have the option of telling him he couldn't compete at all.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4144951-The-Guardian-Non-Transgender-Girls-Female-Transwomen-transwomen-are-now-the-default?pg=5

Good for CJ. I don’t really care if it’s to do with saying the right thing for republicans or whatever. While I’m a massive cynic, I don’t think CJ is necessarily just saying it for political reasons. There’s every reason to think a former leading athlete would have a genuine understanding of the issues and is fed up of the bullshit.

Caitlyn doesn't understand "the science" apparently 😆

Jenner: "it's a question of fairness"

Page: "If you're not gonna allow trans kids to play sports, children will die,"

One old, one young.One male, one female.

Both wealthy. One is a parent and is an ex-elite athlete.

Who gets to stay in the trans 'community'?

Well said Caitlyn.

Gingernaut - TRAs are going nuts on Twitter.

I've been amusing myself with the temper tantrums and hyperbole all morning.

My absolute favourite is this little gem.

Caitlyn Jenner is the only trans person I know that doesn't want rights

Followed by

Caitlyn Jenner is clearly transphobic and guilty of a hate crime. Why is Twitter not banning her

Caitlyn Jenner is a world class athlete, the average TRA is not. Caitlyn Jenner is also a fully transitioned transwoman and with bucketloads of integrity it would seem.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

TRAs are going nuts on Twitter.

Oh, is it a day ending in Y?

We keep two categories - Female (open only to biological females, inc trans men if they wish) and Open (open to anyone and everyone, they can dress/present however they like).

I'd be a bit safer re transmen.
Open to socially transitioned only transmen because testosterone is a powerful performance enhancing drug.
Transwomen to compete with the males never women.

TRAs are going nuts on Twitter.

Apparently, Jenner isn't trans.

How they work this Woke Big Brother 'doublethink' into their internal logic is beyond me.

How is Caitlyn pulling the ladder up when Caitlyn competed in sport before they transitioned? Stupid people.

There doesn’t need to be a third category in sports (for a start the transgender category would have hardly any participants and therefore render the title meaningless - eg can you really call yourself 800m Transgender World Champion when you only beat 4 other athletes?

We keep two categories - Female (open only to biological females, inc trans men if they wish) and Open (open to anyone and everyone, they can dress/present however they like).

It's simple. If it makes no difference where are all the transmen winning in men's sports.

Helleofabore

Or this denial of the material reality of sex could actually just stop. Shift the paradigm back to accepting that bodies are either formed male or female and accept that some males feel more comfortable as living as women. And not trying to force acceptance as a woman when material reality counts.

We could get the medical community to, I don’t know, encourage resilience in accepting material reality. that if you have a male body and have gender dysphoria, you don’t ‘become’ a female.

Absolutely this. I couldn't agree with you more!