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Guardian hits new low

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justawoman · 30/04/2021 18:14

Glorifying a double mastectomy and claiming kids will kill themselves if they can’t get one too. My mother and other women I know have had mastectomies and I know how disfiguring they can be and how much nerve pain, lymphoma etc can happen afterwards. Now it’s presented, in the headline, as a ‘lifesaving’ choice, and no, they’re not talking about cancer:

www.theguardian.com/film/2021/apr/30/elliot-page-happiness-top-surgery-oprah-winfrey-interview

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MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes · 30/04/2021 18:27

Why? Why will girls kill themselves if they don't have mastectomies? It's only a short article, but when are these questions going to be asked instead of pithy assumptions like this being considered worth printing? In my teens I absolutely hated my developing body too. Many girls do, to the point of suicidal ideation in my case as in many. Why? I hated it all because of the shit you get for it from men. I will happily lay money on the chances of male treatment of girls and women being at the bottom of this for many if not most. Why does no one in power want to actually look at the causes of problems any more? Too many, too many uncomfortable truths?

ListeningQuietly · 30/04/2021 18:26

I am sure that Elliot is happy as a man
but very concerned that he has rushed into irreversible surgery so quickly
and livid that the grauniad is repeating the "kids will die" line
in direct breach of the Samaritans guidelines

Helmetbymidnight · 30/04/2021 18:23

This week, state legislators in Florida rushed through a bill that would ban trans women and girls from participating in school sports.

NO.

What a horrendous article - full of crap.

SmokedDuck · 30/04/2021 18:23

At least page is old enough to be in a better position to make a decision like that than a teenager.

Though I wonder whether this wll really have the desired effect. Because the rhetoric on being oneself finally etc was the same when coming out as a lesbian a number of years ago, and even the sense of a kind of euphoria. Sometimes I think people keep trying to chase the next thing that they think will fix the problem.

TheWeeDonkey · 30/04/2021 18:21

"Children will die, its really that simple" fucking hell that's disgraceful

ScrollingLeaves · 30/04/2021 18:21

Not ‘hothead’ but ‘how’.

ScrollingLeaves · 30/04/2021 18:19

“Actor Elliot Page has revealed how much happier he feels after having top surgery, and described transitioning as “life-saving””

I had not realised hothead Guardian is junk now. Imagine using the term “top surgery” with neither an explanation or quotation marks.

Strikemepink · 30/04/2021 18:19

I know it’s bizarre, but I feel so disappointed in, and for, Page.

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