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ArabellaScott · 29/04/2021 20:47

... by any other name, would smell as sweet.

How about a thread for poetry by/for women?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/05/2021 22:40

Trying to read through tears.
I am another whose father died before I could reach him.

Thanks
SirVixofVixHall · 06/05/2021 21:34

I have a novel of hers here to read, I am really looking forward to it. She sounds a wonderful woman.

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2021 20:12

Flowers SirVix.

Thanks for posting 'Girls are Coming Out of the Woods', btw, I have ordered Tishani Doshi's collection and looking forward to reading it.

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SirVixofVixHall · 06/05/2021 19:55

It was me who posted Girls are Coming Out of the Woods on the other thread, and there are some poems I already know and love here on this one and now many new ones to treasure.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/05/2021 19:54

Trying to read through tears.
I am another whose father died before I could reach him.

Waitwhat23 · 06/05/2021 12:38

Prayer

Some days, although we cannot pray, a prayer
utters itself. So, a woman will lift
her head from the sieve of her hands and stare
at the minims sung by a tree, a sudden gift.

Some nights, although we are faithless, the truth
enters our hearts, that small familiar pain;
then a man will stand stock-still, hearing his youth
in the distant Latin chanting of a train.

Pray for us now. Grade 1 piano scales
console the lodger looking out across
a Midlands town. Then dusk, and someone calls
a child's name as though they named their loss.

Darkness outside. Inside, the radio's prayer -
Rockall. Malin. Dogger. Finisterre.

Carol Ann Duffy

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 06/05/2021 11:30

An Obsessive Combination Of Onotological Inscape, Trickery And Love - Anne Sexton

Busy, with an idea for a code, I write
signals hurrying from left to right,
or right to left, by obscure routes,
for my own reasons; taking a word like writes
down tiers of tries until its secret rites
make sense; or until, suddenly, RATS
can amazingly and funnily become STAR
and right to left that small star
is mine, for my own liking, to stare
its five lucky pins inside out, to store
forever kindly, as if it were a star
I touched and a miracle I really wrote.

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 06/05/2021 11:22

That's wonderful 2Olives1Onion ♥️

2Olives1Onion · 06/05/2021 11:10

Flowers to everyone here who has experienced the loss of someone irreplaceable, and to everyone battling to be treated as fully human, to access the resources every human should be able to do, to live a good life. And to everyone discouraged by how the world still, and always, hates women: I'm with you.

But there IS hope, and I want to post a poem of hope:

Tomorrow’s Daughters,
by Lebogang Mashile

I want to write a poem
About pretty black girls
Who don’t relax and lie their dreams away;
Voices that curl
The straight edges of history
Hair-thin slices of a movement
Turning the world kinky.

I respect the disciplined silent screamers
Who expose the holes.
Emily Dickinson, I am climbing through
To your wooden shed of isolation
Where the robin’s song
Robbed you of your sanity.
I revere people to my own detriment:
Perhaps you did, too.

But when I enter your hallowed hearth,
Please don’t turn me away.
I want to show pretty black girls
How to look at their hearts
With eyes blaring at full blast
The way you did.

Together, we can build a bridge
To the promise in their faces
And pull them towards poems
By pretty black girls
Wearing crowns of change.

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 06/05/2021 10:52

 Thanks AMCoffeePMWine

 Thanks HerRoyalRisesAgain

Some wonderful poems here, thank you. I love Dangerous Coats Waitwhat23!

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2021 10:44

Another one from Warsan Shire - 'the ugly daughter'

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HerRoyalRisesAgain · 06/05/2021 10:43

Blatant self promotion here... I write poetry. Although I'm definitely not famous.
This one is called in the darkness.
It's about my battle with psychosis.

The lights are out,
There's no one else home,
The darkness engulfs me,
I feel all alone.

It's quiet in the dark,
The silence screams,
But the voices continue,
I dont know what they mean.

They tell me my secrets,
They know what I hide,
They tell me I'm worthless,
That I'm broken inside.

I want to let it go,
I want rid of the fear,
But no one can help me,
There's no one else here,

Here in the darkness,
Here I know myself,
Too deeply for comfort,
Too scared to seek help.

But I wish I could let it go,
To rid myself of this sorrow,
Rid myself of this pain,
So I'll try again tomorrow

Maybe when the dark subsides,
When the light comes through again,
Maybe then I'll feel better,
And no longer feel this pain.

When morning arrives,
When there are people around,
I can ignore the voices,
And maybe then I'll be found

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2021 10:36

what they did yesterday afternoon

by warsan shire

they set my aunts house on fire
i cried the way women on tv do
folding at the middle
like a five pound note.
i called the boy who use to love me
tried to ‘okay’ my voice
i said hello
he said warsan, what’s wrong, what’s happened?

i’ve been praying,
and these are what my prayers look like;
dear god
i come from two countries
one is thirsty
the other is on fire
both need water.

later that night
i held an atlas in my lap
ran my fingers across the whole world
and whispered
where does it hurt?

it answered
everywhere
everywhere
everywhere.

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ArabellaScott · 06/05/2021 10:36

Flowers AMCoffee.

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Waitwhat23 · 06/05/2021 10:32

Flowers to all those on this thread who have lost someone

Waitwhat23 · 06/05/2021 10:31

Dangerous Coats

Someone clever once said
Women were not allowed pockets
In case they carried leaflets
To spread sedition
Which means unrest
To you & me
A grandiose word
For commonsense
Fairness
Kindness
Equality
So ladies, start sewing
Dangerous coats
Made of pockets & sedition

Sharon Owens

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 06/05/2021 06:59
Flowers
Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/05/2021 06:30
Thanks
AMCoffeePMWine · 06/05/2021 00:45

This is a wonderful thread OP, thanks.

I’m a bereaved mum, my son was 6 when he died suddenly.

This poem, by a fellow bereaved Mum, expresses everything I can’t.

Little Elegy BY ELINOR WYLIE

Withouten you
No rose can grow;
No leaf be green
If never seen
Your sweetest face;
No bird have grace
Or power to sing;
Or anything
Be kind, or fair,
And you nowhere.

newrubylane · 06/05/2021 00:14

Themes for Women by Elizabeth Bishop

There is love to begin with, early love
painful and unskilled, late love for matrons
who eye the beautiful buttocks and thick hair
of young men who do not even notice them.

Parturition it figures, comes after, cataclysmic
at first, then dissolving into endless care
and rules and baths and orthodontic treatment
Speech days, Open days, shut days, exams.

There are landscapes and inscapes too, sometimes tracts
Of unknown counties, most often the one great hill
in low cloud, the waterfall, the empty sands, the few
snowdrops at the back door, the small birds flying.

Politics crop up at election time and ecology
any old time, no ocelot coats, no South African
oranges, a knowledge of the Serengeti
greater than the positioning of rubbish dumps
here in this offshore island in hard times

Seasons never go out of fashion, never will,
the coming of Spring, the dying fall
of Autumn into Winter, fine brash summers,
the red sun going down like a beach ball
into the sea. These do not escape the eyes
of women whose bodies obey the tides
and the cheese-paring sterile moon

As you might expect, death hangs around a lot.
First ageing mothers, senile father's; providing
the ham and sherry when the show is over,
examining stretched breasts to catch the process
of decay in time. In farmhouse kitchens they make
pigeon pies, weeping unexpectedly over
curved breasts among the floating feathers.
The men tread mud in after docking lambs' tails,
and smell of blood.

RightOnTheEdge · 05/05/2021 22:41

I Worried
by Mary Oliver

I worried a lot. Will the garden grow, will the rivers
flow in the right direction, will the earth turn
as it was taught, and if not how shall
I correct it?

Was I right, was I wrong, will I be forgiven,
can I do better?

Will I ever be able to sing, even the sparrows
can do it and I am, well,
hopeless.

Is my eyesight fading or am I just imagining it,
am I going to get rheumatism,
lockjaw, dementia?

Finally I saw that worrying had come to nothing.
And gave it up. And took my old body
and went out into the morning,
and sang.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 04/05/2021 12:51

One Art
BY ELIZABETH BISHOP

The art of losing isn’t hard to master;
so many things seem filled with the intent
to be lost that their loss is no disaster.

Lose something every day. Accept the fluster
of lost door keys, the hour badly spent.
The art of losing isn’t hard to master.

Then practice losing farther, losing faster:
places, and names, and where it was you meant
to travel. None of these will bring disaster.

I lost my mother’s watch. And look! my last, or
next-to-last, of three loved houses went.
The art of losing isn’t hard to master.

I lost two cities, lovely ones. And, vaster,
some realms I owned, two rivers, a continent.
I miss them, but it wasn’t a disaster.

—Even losing you (the joking voice, a gesture
I love) I shan’t have lied. It’s evident
the art of losing’s not too hard to master
though it may look like (Write it!) like disaster.

Fernlake · 04/05/2021 12:44

Helmetbymidnight

Jeez. What a poem.

ArabellaScott · 04/05/2021 12:36
  • Wrongside, I love that, too.
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ArabellaScott · 04/05/2021 12:36

Oh, god, Helmet, that's made me cry.

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