The reach of speaking up. The ripple effect.

I'm delighted to see the ripple effect of the Census/ONS ruling - SRA alters survey to include sex

Please remember that Labour is a members-led party: if you feel strongly about this join and campaign from within! Hold office if you can. Be the change you wish to see!

I’ve emailed my head of diversity about sex based vs gender based spaces/sports/groups etc. She assured me that sex does not mean gender identity and sex based rights are not affected but attached two articles ( that I could read to educate myself) and they completely contradicted that! There’s been some concern about girls in school locally so I will try to use that traction to have another swing.

I took our LGBTI diversity survey to bits (do you believe there are more than two genders (male/female?) etc)

Our local mp was canvassing on the street and she seemed very ‘be kind’ but I asked her the staniland question and she did look visibly taken aback so I don’t think anyone had ever put it in those terms.

I’ve been talking quietly to our head of HR & also making use of our anonymous feedback system. They were pretty shocked by what I told them about Stonewall.

I've been making appointments to speak to senior managers individually in my company. Two (male) managers were all about 'be kind', 'can't tar everyone with same brush '. Two female managers shared my concerns but only off the record .

I have two more meetings to go, one with the head of our equality forum and the other with head of diversity & inclusion - both women - but I'm approaching those meetings with a bit more caution as I haven't met them before.

I just don't feel these things can be left unsaid anymore.

Good point OP! I am a school governor so make sure I check every policy for sex/gender etc, I also do the same with policies at work, I also talk to anyone who will listen to me (if they disagree no one has dared to say so yet ).

[quote Zimniy]@Mulletsaremisunderstood Posy Parker? She's amazing! Glad to hear I'm not alone in experiencing this. They actually told me that sex is not binary and that anyone can be what they want to be. They'd not heard of transgender cheats in sports or of women getting raped in prisons by other "women." Thanks for the support.[/quote]
Yeah, love Posy!! She's the angry woman I wish I had the guts to be

On the speaking up, I haven't been as brave as some of you, but I have emailed some of my local TDs (haven't gotten any decent responses yet). And contributing to crowdfunders when I can.

I am talking to people in real life about it, which seems very effective.
Most people haven't a clue about what's going on and are shocked. It's refreshing to have reasonable conversations about this, if you only looked on twitter you'd think the world had gone mad.

I also emailed our prison service to ask how many people with gender recognition certificates were in the female prison. They responded with some nonsense about having to house someone according to their legal gender, and directed me to the general population numbers, which is no help.

I’ve been posting GC content on my social media for years & every so often, there’s a like or an appreciative comment from someone who’s hearing about it for the first time.

@Mulletsaremisunderstood Posy Parker? She's amazing! Glad to hear I'm not alone in experiencing this. They actually told me that sex is not binary and that anyone can be what they want to be. They'd not heard of transgender cheats in sports or of women getting raped in prisons by other "women." Thanks for the support.

Also 'feminism is for everyone'....eh, no - feminism is for women. End of. We shouldn't have to apologise for that.

Unfortunately this is nouveau-feminism where prioritising penis havers seems to be the whole agenda.

They clap themselves on the back at how progressive they are.

Inclusion my ar$e

@Skyliner001 - do you agree with them? That women can have a penis and be allowed in single sex spaces? Or were you being sarcastic? I can't tell.

This thread is uplifting, thanks to all

I find the hairdressers an excellent place to kick off a conversation. So many women have absolutely no idea about the attempted destruction of our hard-won sex-based rights. Once they get the gist of what's going on it's amazing to watch the rage unfold.

I've started speaking up. I've reached a few people, written some emails and was feeling pretty confident that I was making a difference. Then today happened. I went to a feminist group meeting and it was awful, just awful. I raised by concerns about identity politics and transgender women having access to single sex spaces. I was on the receiving end of several looks of disgust and have been told that in their group feminism is for everyone and that it's all inclusive and anyone can be a woman if that's how they feel. I feel so miserable now and alone. Hopefully I reached someone there and sowed a seed of doubt.

Im gutted I live in the arse end of nowhere, in a safe seat.

Sigh

Oooops! I missed out the word 'canvassing' there! I don't generally bark that at the postie or delivery drivers!!

My opening question for anyone who is daft enough to knock at my door is 'do you believe a woman can have a penis?

I bet your postie breathes a sign of relief when you’re out

Seriously though this thread is great, you all sound formidable!

My opening question for anyone who is daft enough to knock at my door is 'do you believe a woman can have a penis?' And then I will start quoting the Equality Act.

I have also made a LibDem canvasser run away

I asked my LibDem canvasser what his definition of the word "woman" was and took it from there.

You'd think that would be fairly fundamental to the WEP, wouldn't you? Sadly not.

Good luck!