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Lesbian Visibility Week

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Shizuku · 27/04/2021 11:40

Shout out to my fellow lesbians on this important week!

I will be wearing my lesbian pride badge right next to my trans pride badge for the whole week in all public spaces.

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ASugarr · 29/04/2021 23:17

@Blibbyblobby

Identifying as a woman. That's it.

Is Woman a gender identity then?

Yes

yourhairiswinterfire · 29/04/2021 23:16

Identifying as a woman. That's it.

Oh Lawd. You can't define a word by using the actual word you're supposed to be defining to define it!

CorvusPurpureus · 29/04/2021 23:14

Asugarr the definition of a woman has been repeatedly explained to you.

You might prefer it to include male people, but it doesn't.

What difference does it make to your belief she she has a penis or a vagina? She still is a woman regardless.

Your notions on this are decidedly idiosyncratic, & whilst I absolutely support your right to hold & express those beliefs, yours is - globally - an extremely niche position.

Blibbyblobby · 29/04/2021 23:14

Identifying as a woman. That's it.

Is Woman a gender identity then?

ASugarr · 29/04/2021 23:12

@GreyhoundG1rl

What difference does it make to your belief she has a penis or a vagina? She still is a woman regardless. I'm glad you used the word "belief" there, ASugarr. A penis plays no part in what I believe a lesbian to be.

Okay and that's what you believe. Others disagree.

cakedays · 29/04/2021 23:12

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

It's a bit creepy to refer to people by their genitals! However, in a world where that is normalised, then queries about genitals must surely follow.

It's one of the many reasons I object to calling women "people with vulvas/vaginas" and I think the words woman and man should remain sex terms, instead of becoming gender terms.

Indeed - if the whole edifice of an entire ideology is arranged purely around the specific terminological differences between what's in one's head and what's in one's underwear, why is it some kind of taboo to ask who's got what? You can't build an entire framework of ideas around something, then get all coy and mystifying and call "bullies!" when others ask for clarity.

ASugarr · 29/04/2021 23:11

@HamsterV2

Because you all started off by saying a trans woman can't be a lesbian but now you are asking what genitals she has. What difference does it make to your belief she she has a penis or a vagina? She still is a woman regardless.

So define woman - without resorting to gender stereotypes.

Identifying as a woman. That's it.

GreyhoundG1rl · 29/04/2021 23:11

What difference does it make to your belief she has a penis or a vagina? She still is a woman regardless.
I'm glad you used the word "belief" there, ASugarr.
A penis plays no part in what I believe a lesbian to be.

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 23:10

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MrsWooster · 29/04/2021 23:09

🎶 here comes the sun☀️
🌞 🌞 🌞

TinselAngel · 29/04/2021 23:08

I've got a vagina, if anybody is interested.

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 23:08

now you are boring me.

Well you did well to get this far.

HamsterV2 · 29/04/2021 23:08

So define woman - without resorting to gender stereotypes.

ASugarr · 29/04/2021 23:08

[quote Unreasonabubble]@ASugarr now you are boring me.[/quote]
Now it seems you've lost this argument 🤍

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 23:07

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ASugarr · 29/04/2021 23:07

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

It's a bit creepy to refer to people by their genitals! However, in a world where that is normalised, then queries about genitals must surely follow.

It's one of the many reasons I object to calling women "people with vulvas/vaginas" and I think the words woman and man should remain sex terms, instead of becoming gender terms.

But that isn't asking you personal questions. That isn't invading your privacy.

Unreasonabubble · 29/04/2021 23:07

@ASugarr now you are boring me.

ASugarr · 29/04/2021 23:04

@Unreasonabubble

I think you just lost the argument *@ASugarr*

No I think you have. Because you all started off by saying a trans woman can't be a lesbian but now you are asking what genitals she has. What difference does it make to your belief she she has a penis or a vagina? She still is a woman regardless.

J060 · 29/04/2021 23:04

Sorry, I just got a bit confused when asked about the lesbians who were not cis or trans.
I thought most lesbians either identify with thier birth sex or don’t, so I was struggling to think who else you would be referring to.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/04/2021 23:04

It's a bit creepy to refer to people by their genitals! However, in a world where that is normalised, then queries about genitals must surely follow.

It's one of the many reasons I object to calling women "people with vulvas/vaginas" and I think the words woman and man should remain sex terms, instead of becoming gender terms.

Whythesadface · 29/04/2021 23:03

We are asking you too look because your getting fact and fantasy mixed up.
Ducks, as feathers fly over the truth bit about a man never being a woman.

Unreasonabubble · 29/04/2021 23:03

I think you just lost the argument @ASugarr

CorvusPurpureus · 29/04/2021 23:02

@ASugarr

And neither is she.

I don't think anyone's ordering Shizuku to take a break or reflect on their posts.

I'd say their posts have largely achieved what they were designed to achieve, & Shizuku is free to continue posting if they feel they are delivering their argument effectively.

Shizuku, however, feels that they have an entitlement to tell women to shut up.

That's a Nope.

HamsterV2 · 29/04/2021 23:02

*It's creepy and manipulative to appropriate other people's experiences for your own gains.

But still you persist.*

A thousand times this.

cakedays · 29/04/2021 23:02

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