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This feels really unsettling

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CroydianSlip · 23/04/2021 19:32

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-56860846

I can't quite unpick my feelings on this but I read the mitigation speech and agree with a lot of it.

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MissBarbary · 23/04/2021 20:13

Both are tragic. Both avoidable and yes with an element of blame

An element of blame? Both deaths could easily have been avoided.

There's no excuse for leaving a child alone in a bath to make a phone call. Why even leave the bathroom? She could have made the call in the bathroom.

There's no excuse for leaving 2 18 months old children unattended for 2 hours.

The second one is just as culpable but I agree she escaped any punishment because of her class.

I wonder if posters saying , oh it's terrible, but accidents happen, would be saying that if it had been 2 negligent fathers?

CarmelBeach · 23/04/2021 20:00

It's a waste of a much needed jail space, looking at it purely from that perspective.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 23/04/2021 19:59

So tragic.

Sentences given to women for anything always seem disproportionate compared to men.

Karwomannghia · 23/04/2021 19:58

I just feel sorry for her. As if she hasn’t suffered enough.

christinarossetti19 · 23/04/2021 19:51

Sstrongtn yes the socioeconomic status of the mother (no mention of the father in the first account, so possibly single parent) is likely the reason for the difference between the court's view. Obviously, different judges as well.

Accidental death would be the only right verdict. Sadly, babies and children die in tragic accidents every day. That is enough of a life sentence for the parents to be carrying.

Sstrongtn · 23/04/2021 19:45

Hmmmm, second one leaving 2 18 month olds alone for a 2 hour conference call would be to me far more neglectful than the first. But one would seem to be a younger likely less socio economically stable mother...

Both are tragic. Both avoidable and yes with an element of blame. But she must be destroying herself and I don’t see how prison helps here?

Yet you can wilfully rape and beat a woman and walk away with a commuted sentence or community service.

The law is an ass.

AdHominemNonSequitur · 23/04/2021 19:43

Tragic accident. No way should she have got a custodial sentence. It was dumb, not criminal. She deserves compassion and sympathy not vengeance. I fucking despair.

manatsu · 23/04/2021 19:41

Sorry, I missed your message about the mitigation speech and I haven't read that, so maybe I don't have the full facts and shouldn't have commented.

manatsu · 23/04/2021 19:39

This is probably tearing her apart so I do feel some sympathy, but you never leave a baby unattended in the bath. Basically the first rule of parenting. Especially not for nearly five minutes.

I agree it was a tragic accident but I think she was being neglectful, albeit inadvertently.

ValancyRedfern · 23/04/2021 19:37

This is so sad.

christinarossetti19 · 23/04/2021 19:37

Very different court judgement and tone of editorial to this also tragic accidental drowning.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/01/baby-drowned-hot-tub-mother-working-home-inquest-hears/