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Knew this would happen, had to turn down job

454 replies

Trixie78 · 22/04/2021 13:23

I'm furious, have been out of work for a while. Was offered a temporary contract writing and implementating policy for a public sector organisation. Just up my street and would really have helped us out. Turns out they're Stonewall champions and are full on TWAW and have all rights to anything they want. I asked to review some of their current policies and it's all cisgender crap and lists of stuff we must and mustn't do to make all Trans people safe. We'll I've obviously had to turn down the role and worse I told the recruiter why so will probably never get a job through them now. There are companies out there that haven't bought into all this crap aren't there?

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PheasantPlucker1 · 22/04/2021 20:10

Driveway if you dont believe the story, why are you still commenting?

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 20:08

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PotholeHellhole · 22/04/2021 20:07

I'm getting very worried about the implications for sex education.

It was bad enough explaining to teenagers that yes sex could still result in pregnancy if you "did it standing up", and all the other old canards without adding "yes, even if the one with a penis now identifies as female".

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 20:07

@Erkrie

I was gobsmacked that two bright 15yr olds genuinely believed that humans could change sex.

I have seen evidence of this with young adults. It's quite a worry.

What evidence was this?
Erkrie · 22/04/2021 20:07

I was gobsmacked that two bright 15yr olds genuinely believed that humans could change sex.

I have seen evidence of this with young adults. It's quite a worry.

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 20:05

@Erkrie

What I said was, pretending that throwing yourself under the bus for a non issue in the name of all the souls that can't, is disrespectful to what they're facing

I don't live on a bus route ☹️

OP.

Because even though have made it completely about you, all of my points were to OP.

Erkrie · 22/04/2021 20:05

What I said was, pretending that throwing yourself under the bus for a non issue in the name of all the souls that can't, is disrespectful to what they're facing

I don't live on a bus route ☹️

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 20:05

@PheasantPlucker1

Driveway why would I shoehorn random things in to a class? What a strange question.

I used the phrase pregnant women, and one asked me to say pregnant people.
In my subject we have to use language correctly, and the correct definitions. Especially in this context. Thats how we got on the subject.

I was gobsmacked that two bright 15yr olds genuinely believed that humans could change sex.

I don't believe in a million years a pupil asked you to say pregnant people. Not in the slightest.
LostToucan · 22/04/2021 20:04

Another non answer. You're a good deflector.

Not deflecting, I just cba to repeat things.

PheasantPlucker1 · 22/04/2021 20:04

Driveway why would I shoehorn random things in to a class? What a strange question.

I used the phrase pregnant women, and one asked me to say pregnant people.
In my subject we have to use language correctly, and the correct definitions. Especially in this context. Thats how we got on the subject.

I was gobsmacked that two bright 15yr olds genuinely believed that humans could change sex.

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 20:03

@LostToucan

I’ve already given you the answer, if you cared enough to read it.

Hey ho.

Another non answer. You're a good deflector.
Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 20:03

@Erkrie

I'm saying people who live in real turmoil don't need OPs outrage because whether or not an employee thinks TWAW is the least of their worries, whereas for you MN warriors it is the centre of everything.

I don't really think you should speak for everyone. Do you? Seems a bit rude to make assumptions that women living in turmoil aren't interested or don't have the headspace for women's rights.☹️ After all, you don't know everyone's circumstances here.. do you?

Not what I said though, is it.

What I said was, pretending that throwing yourself under the bus for a non issue in the name of all the souls that can't, is disrespectful to what they're facing.

Ps. Nor everyone thinks TWAW is a massive, massive, women's rights changing issue. Shock .

Erkrie · 22/04/2021 20:02

You can all empathise and feel sorry for me if you want

Here. Have some 🥂🍾 You probably need it.

Erkrie · 22/04/2021 20:00

I'm saying people who live in real turmoil don't need OPs outrage because whether or not an employee thinks TWAW is the least of their worries, whereas for you MN warriors it is the centre of everything.

I don't really think you should speak for everyone. Do you? Seems a bit rude to make assumptions that women living in turmoil aren't interested or don't have the headspace for women's rights.☹️ After all, you don't know everyone's circumstances here.. do you?

PotholeHellhole · 22/04/2021 20:00

@PheasantPlucker1

Today I had to explain to a year 10 class that males can never get pregnant and uterus transplants into males are not possible.

I even had to allow two to google as they didnt believe me.

You can all empathise and feel sorry for me if you want Grin

Oh dear. Kids, Harry Potter fanfiction is not a documentary.
LostToucan · 22/04/2021 19:59

I’ve already given you the answer, if you cared enough to read it.

Hey ho.

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 19:59

@PheasantPlucker1

Today I had to explain to a year 10 class that males can never get pregnant and uterus transplants into males are not possible.

I even had to allow two to google as they didnt believe me.

You can all empathise and feel sorry for me if you want Grin

Was it in a relevant class or just shoe horned in?
PheasantPlucker1 · 22/04/2021 19:57

Today I had to explain to a year 10 class that males can never get pregnant and uterus transplants into males are not possible.

I even had to allow two to google as they didnt believe me.

You can all empathise and feel sorry for me if you want Grin

SirVixofVixHall · 22/04/2021 19:57

@ASugarr

If that is their policy then that's their policy. Human rights are important in most companies to uphold. Good luck looking elsewhere.
How is giving males access to female only spaces “upholding human rights” ? Do explain.
Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 19:56

@LostToucan

So who does she have empathy with?

I’ll let you work that out for yourself.

No answer then

I've already said who I think she has empathu with. You disagreed but can't tell me otherwise.

LostToucan · 22/04/2021 19:55

So who does she have empathy with?

I’ll let you work that out for yourself.

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 19:53

@LostToucan

Op and PP think she empathises with those poor people who feel the same but are forced to work there

OP didn’t say that. That’s just your interpretation.

So who does she have empathy with?
LostToucan · 22/04/2021 19:51

Op and PP think she empathises with those poor people who feel the same but are forced to work there

OP didn’t say that. That’s just your interpretation.

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 19:49

@LostToucan

Empathising assuming other people always feel the same.

They don't.

It isn't a shitty job

Ah right. So you’ve completely misunderstood. Explains a lot of your muddled posts.

I'm not muddled.

I haven't misunderstood anything.

Op and PP think she empathises with those poor people who feel the same but are forced to work there

For all we know, OP is the only person in the org who has these beliefs.

AssassinatedBeauty · 22/04/2021 19:49

@Butwasitherdriveway try re-reading the OPs third and sixth post that make it abundantly clear.

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