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Just Fear of the Unknown, says Alan Cummings

117 replies

Igneococcus · 22/04/2021 06:29

In the Times:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3bdf5ac0-a2ee-11eb-b457-728758ee7665?shareToken=fd3963bda621590b5f11b7c85ddea4ce

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Igneococcus · 22/04/2021 18:02

My mum would be so pleased if I'd turn religious in my middle age :)

The word "trans" is all over the comments section, so that isn't what is getting your comments flagged.

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Helleofabore · 22/04/2021 17:46

Whoa ho ho! Way to go Biscuits...

It is always hilarious that that one gets flung around. It really does show a lack of imagination and an adversity to the truth.

Biscuitsanddoombar · 22/04/2021 17:21

“Christian Right wing extremism”

Wait wait I have that on my bingo card!! Grin

DisgustedofManchester · 22/04/2021 17:18

The Times censorship of comments makes it impossible to make any pro trans comments at all on their pages. Its an echo chamber of christian right wing extremism these days.

Even the word "trans" now gets flagged.

Thecatonthemat · 22/04/2021 17:12

Unlikely to happen but the transman scenario might be more apt

Thecatonthemat · 22/04/2021 17:10

Would love to hear what he says when a TW demands he has sex with them.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 22/04/2021 16:53

Fear of the unknown? I think it's the total opposite.

IloveJKRowling · 22/04/2021 16:42

"Women are wrongly scared of thing which harms women" says man whom it doesn't affect and who hasn't bothered to find out why women are scared at all.

It must be so nice being a man who has nothing to lose (other than respect) and can blithely ignore the human rights, opinions and feelings of half of the population. Wanker.

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2021 15:31

Arsewash from a smug fud

mic drop.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 22/04/2021 15:04

Yeah! Gay men understand the fight for equality. Women are just so fucking clueless!

Luxury beliefs indeed!

Zinco · 22/04/2021 15:00

I'm so sick of men explaining why women are wrong. It's equivalent to me as a white woman explaining why racism isn't a problem.

There is actually nothing wrong with a white woman explaining why certain claims about racism are false or exaggerated. It's actually a good thing if that's true; and we should listen to people regardless of the colour of their skin.

The OP article, however, is just wrong in what it says.

I0NA · 22/04/2021 15:00

It’s luxury beliefs.

Lottapianos · 22/04/2021 14:12

Cannot be even slightly arsed to read this. Yet another man with zero skin in the game and zero interest in how this issue affects women. Pathetic. Bet he's really proud of himself for writing it too 🙄

terryleather · 22/04/2021 14:04

Arsewash from a smug fud who probably hasn't thought about the subject for more than two minutes and patronisingly thinks that he knows better than the women and men who've been studying the implications of all this for years.

Alternatively he knows very well but just doesn't care because it doesn't affect him.

Whichever it is, he can do one.

MichelleofzeResistance · 22/04/2021 13:50

I mean you do find those who know all this stuff but just plain don't care because they openly share their belief that someone born male always matters more than anyone born female. And that female people who don't bend their lives gladly around male people deserve exclusion (and kerb stomping and other lovely inclusive stuff).

But generally it's one of those three camps required to believe that equality and inclusion and civil rights isnt something all female people should be allowed unless they make the right noises to deserve it.

Solutions that work for all. It's not difficult. It's really not.

MichelleofzeResistance · 22/04/2021 13:46

Without a single thought for women in prisons, refuges, sports etc or concern for young people caught up in this.

The absolute blind naivety is staggering. You wonder if these people have ever met anyone of other cultures, women who have been in refuges, women who have been raped and traumatised, if it even occurs to them any of these issues exist.

Or if it's just that in their opinion the service humany xx type thingies couldn't possibly have sufficient brain power to actually have coherent, valid reasons why this doesn't work, and possibly he could try listening to them instead of head patting?

Naive and overprivileged? Or a misgoygnistic, arrogant twit? I wonder which.

EightiesRobot · 22/04/2021 13:43

It's such a lazy piece as well. He must have written it in 5 minutes, clapped himself on the back for being so progressive, before emailing it over. Without a single thought for women in prisons, refuges, sports etc or concern for young people caught up in this.

JellySlice · 22/04/2021 13:19

Just fear of the unknown. Isn't that part of the problem for many of the pre-teen and teen children being sent or drawn along the trans route? Fear of the unknowns of puberty and growing up.

MichelleofzeResistance · 22/04/2021 12:55

How does it go again? "God, grant me the confidence of a mediocre man."

Or in this case, at best, a woefully naiive and overconfident man.

Alan. Love. Try asking one of those service human typy things with the XX chromosomy bits what the issues are. I'm sure one will be kind and explain that there's a bit more too it than them having a bit of a girly witter about the unknown.

And then I've got Karen White's victims and the woman taking the MoJ to court, and the women from the refuges, and the Muslim lady in my town fighting for access to a public loo and a lot of girls not drinking and avoiding school when they have periods and .... well, they'll form an orderly queue for a quick chance to set you straight. You may want a crash helmet.

MadamBatty · 22/04/2021 12:44

I can’t see any of the comments?

Thelnebriati · 22/04/2021 12:42

How do men get to be full grown adults, and this clueless about the experience of the other 50% of the human race?

NotBadConsidering · 22/04/2021 12:01

I hope Alan reads the comments, because there are some crackers. May be in for a bit of a surprise!

123ZYX · 22/04/2021 11:51

It is exactly like cake.

If you want some of my slice of the cake, I get less. (I.e. males in female sports, there are fewer spaces for females)

But it's possible to make a bigger cake (third spaces) so everyone gets the services/opportunities they need to assist with equality.

SunsetBeetch · 22/04/2021 11:48

Good point RoyalCorgi. All women shortlists are definitely a pie, too. So is all-women accommodation.

Igneococcus · 22/04/2021 11:44

And now a comment complaining about the moderation has also been rejected.

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