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Chwarae Teg demonstrates why inclusivity is dangerous and unfair to women

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Shedbuilder · 21/04/2021 18:10

Chwaroae Teg (Fair Play for Women) is a publicly-funded women's organisation that was captured some time ago and has already been picked up here several times for its reading of equal rights law. I used to live and work in Wales and several of my friends there keep me in touch with events.

This evening CT hosted a Zoom discussion on Gender Equality with representatives of all the main parties. I'll pass swiftly by on the subject of the youth and middle classness of the candidates, and on the constant refrain that we all just need to be kinder and more accepting and everything will be fine.

A couple of women used the Chat facility to ask polite, factual questions about sex, the Equality Act and so on. The Plaid representative, whose party and leader are totally TWAW, gave an impassioned little speech about the awfulness of sexual stereotyping and in response a couple of women in the Chat section asked questions about sexual stereotyping and transgender ideology and concerns about girls who defy sexual stereotypes being told they might be trans. One woman, a youth worker, expressed her concern. Someone else agreed.

Helen from Chwarae Teg intervened to tell them that divisiveness was not allowed. CT, she said, is an INCLUSIVE organisation and hate and. divisiveness are not tolerated. One of the women asked, in the Chat section, if this meant that they were not permitted to express concern about women and girls. She was ejected from the event. No idea what happened to the others involved but they probably got the boot too.

It's a useful example of how inclusivity works against women's interests. Inclusivity was used as a reason to shut down women' valid concerns.

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Shedbuilder · 21/04/2021 19:42

@DicklessWonder

Chwaroae Teg (Fair Play for Women)

Chwarae Teg just means Fair Play. FPFW is a different organisation.

Yes, sorry: it's been a few years since I was there in Wales and it's showing!
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Gwenhwyfar · 21/04/2021 19:37

@DdraigGoch

Plaid are TWAW too? The decision on who to vote for next month is getting even easier.
Where do you live? HMJ is gender critical.
DicklessWonder · 21/04/2021 19:35

The CEO describes herself as Feminist on her Twitter bio. Could be an angle?

SapphosRock · 21/04/2021 19:33

This sounds familiar. I don't think the people trying to force inclusivity by silencing women are thinking this through. Women are organising and talking. And angry.

DicklessWonder · 21/04/2021 19:29

Chwaroae Teg (Fair Play for Women)

Chwarae Teg just means Fair Play. FPFW is a different organisation.

DicklessWonder · 21/04/2021 19:28

@DdraigGoch

Plaid are TWAW too? The decision on who to vote for next month is getting even easier.
Except when the leader wants a surrogate to carry a baby. ;)
Erkrie · 21/04/2021 19:27

That's pretty shameful. Are the foundations of their beliefs so unstable that they can't withstand even the smallest of nudges, in case it all come tumbling down around them 🤔

DdraigGoch · 21/04/2021 19:26

Plaid are TWAW too? The decision on who to vote for next month is getting even easier.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/04/2021 18:58

So depressing.

Shedbuilder · 21/04/2021 18:56

I thought it might be a useful, clear, example. When I was trying to find one for one of the earlier submissions to the WESC I couldn't think of one!

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ErrolTheDragon · 21/04/2021 18:24

So 'inclusivity' means exclusion? Well there's a surprise.