Altruistic Surrogacy in a family and Medical Negligence in Belgium

What a tragic case. Giving birth can be a life threatening process even without medical negligence chucked in. We really need to stop having such a flippant, celeb focused, hearts and flowers discourse about it in the media and start talking about the risks of it becoming a formalised service.

And speaking of lack of critical thinking - how in the name of all that is holy, and the actual law of the land - did a judge in Ireland decide a man had a right to a child without actually having a willing wife/partner/mother to be in his life??????

Single men are commissioning surrogacy arrangements in order to obtain a baby. There was a recent interview where one such man explained he did so because 'he didnt have access to a uterus' (or similar.

It seems that some acceptance is growing for single, coupled or trios of men to be conidered 'infertile' due to them not being in a sexual relationship with a woman.

@OhHolyJesus - I despair every day, at the headlong run into progressive law making that is happening here in Ireland - to the detriment of women and children - but as we keep saying, when we post about these things - it continues the long tradition of state use and abuse of women and mothers in Ireland.

And speaking of lack of critical thinking - how in the name of all that is holy, and the actual law of the land - did a judge in Ireland decide a man had a right to a child without actually having a willing wife/partner/mother to be in his life??????

Personally, I think it is all part of the agenda to remove motherhood from women - the final goal of the patriarchy, where they can create babies for men without those men ever having to involve themselves in a relationship with a woman.

Indeed R0 and the recent case of medical negligence has seen an Irish man compensated similarly so he can pursue surrogacy since the death of his wife.

I wasn't aware of that case.
I find it chilling that medical ethics have become so compromised that it can be considered reasonable.

I really, really, really want people to be force-fed this information. Whenever those of us who are opposed to all surrogacy say that we are thus opposed, people always say "but what about altruistic surrogacy, what about having a child for your sister" and I always say, I love my sisters but I am not laying down my life for them.

I am always shocked at the lack of critical thinking skills of many of the population of the world - no one ever goes beyond "oh, isn't that a lovely thing to do for someone" and into - what happens when it all goes wrong?????

BTW - I am opposed on feminist and right of the child grounds - to me, surrogacy is buying a woman and buying a child. Not to mention, the totally overlooked aspect of the mother who carries the baby, being genetically linked to that child (even if they use donor eggs, the baby is created by the birthing mother in her womb).

This article needs to be added to the surrogacy resource thread on FWR (not sure where it is)

(extract)
"“I was told I couldn’t get pregnant naturally or artificially due to the amputation of my cervix and that our best option to become parents was via surrogacy.”

Accepting the offer of surrogacy, Mrs Ogbole-Spittael consulted with members of her family, with her sister-in-law, Susan Ogbole, accepting to carry a child for her."

It is very concerning that women are being advised that they should seek out women to provide a baby via surrogacy as a prescription for infertility caused by medical negligence.

I'm reminded of a UK case where a woman was financially compenstated specifically so she might travel to USA to fund a commercial surrogacy and obtain a child/ren.