Help explain non binary

A transwoman won't be passed over for a promotion because she's pregnant."

Nor will an infertile woman or a menopausal woman.

Rubbish.
1 Unless the infertile woman has an infertile sticker on her forehead, she will be assumed just like all other females of potentially becoming pregnant.
2 As for menopausal women, they get hit by the second caring whammy, elderly relatives. I know if many women whose careers have been blighted by this. So denied promotion because you might get pregnant then have to tailor work around caring for elderly relatives.

A transwoman won't be passed over for a promotion because she's pregnant."

Nor will an infertile woman or a menopausal woman.

Gender Ideology myth number 12
Because some women can't fall pregnant that means people with a penis (who identify as a woman) experience the same sort of discrimination.

Trans just means that you gender identity doesn't match the sex you were assigned at birth. If you're non-binary, it generally just means your gender identity falls somewhere between male and female.

What does this mean? What is the relationship between sex and gender identity and how do they match or not match? How would I know whether my gender identity matches my sex? How can I discover what my gender identity is?

anal rape is a thing unfortunately. Some trans women have been both anally and vaginally raped.

Women are all too aware of anal rape
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Look. Anal rape is awful no one will ever deny that but no transwoman will ever fall pregnant and have to deal with the consequences of falling pregnant from rape.

Raping a female is used as a weapon in war for goodness sake to render the female pregnant and
become ostracized from her husband and family in parts of the world today.

The unimaginable consequences some women have to go through when contemplating a dangerous and stigmatized abortion or keep an unwanted baby... "Is a thing unfortunately"

Gender ideology myth number three
Because some people's gender identity falls outside of rigid sex stereotypes, that means people can change sex.

Leads to in practice: male people in women only spaces.

Trans just means that you gender identity doesn't match the sex you were assigned at birth. If you're non-binary, it generally just means your gender identity falls somewhere between male and female.

Do you think you ought to do a teensy bit of research before contributing to debates on trans issues? Just a thought.

Shizuku The abuses described above are done mainly to cis girls, but also trans boys and some non-binary children.

Similarly, everyday sexism is an abuse suffered by most cis women and passing trans women, but not by passing trans men.

Let's break this down
Sexism is experienced predominantly by females

A transwoman won't be passed over for a promotion because she's pregnant. Transwomen don't experience the same "everyday sexism" that women do because 90% of the time a transwoman is visibly male so will have her own individual issues that are unrelated to having female reproductivity or female body.

A transman will experience similar sexism due to ability to get pregnant eg vulnerable to rape etc. This is a shared experience of females no matter how they identify.
I'm sure virtually all transmen experienced everyday sexism before they chose to opt out of womanhood and go on a medicalisation path.

Sex is one of those real world things that is complicated. It's not complicated in the least.

Actually, non-binary trans people are a thing.
How much navel-gazing does one have to do to consider oneself both non-binary and trans? If a transman or transwoman claims to be nonbinary does that mean they no longer identify with the sex they say they have transitioned to?

Hilarious to hear you talk about strict binaries, and then complain about binaries that don't even exist and that you have completely made up. Human reproduction is binary and isn't going to change.

Any claim to be nonbinary is based on feelings, without acknowledgement of the reality of one's physical body, with the sex of that body a fact since conception. Saying "I don't feel like a woman or a man" doesn't change the fact that the person remains physically a woman or a man.

@shizuku
What I said :
Trans ideology is also very much based on a gender binary.

What you said I said:
Trans people are a strict binary.

So not the same thing at all. It is not acceptable to "quote" someone and invent the quotation by the way. I don't do it with you so please don't try and mislead in this way. Your reasoning is convoluted enough without you inventing quotes.

What I said: Trans people are not a different sex you know.

What you said: Sex is one of those real world things that is complicated.

So are you claiming that trans people are not male or female or not? Because it really is not that complicated.

"Gender identity" is clearly some kind of multidimensional mosaic of some kind, given the range of descriptions and non-descriptions people who believe in it give.

Sex is binary in humans and all other mammals. Sometimes it is complex to determine an individual's sex. That doesn't mean that the binary doesn't exist.

Regarding gender being perceived as binary, if it is really a multidimensional mosaic, why do we often only see the idea of "trans", "cis" and "non-binary" used to describe people's gender identity? If someone is trans, what are they moving from and to, if not a binary? Why the description of "non-binary" if there isn't a binary to begin with?

When are these other sexes going to be given names? That might make things easier to explain/understand.

Sex is one of those real world things that is complicated.

"Trans ideology is also very much based on a gender binary."

Actually, non-binary trans people are a thing. Hilarious to hear you talk about strict binaries, and then complain about binaries that don't even exist and that you have completely made up.

"You've got it the wrong way round @shizuku - try being a little less conservative and a little more open-minded!"

Open to the idea that sex and gender are not simple binaries?

Me: "sex is complicated"

You: "Sex is a strict binary"

Me: "Trans people include non binary people and express gender as a continuum.

You: "Trans people are a strict binary."

Also you: "Try being more open minded."

In fact, the world is all grey areas.
Trans people are not a different sex you know. Trans ideology is also very much based on a gender binary. GC feminists are the ones reacting AGAINST this very conservative way of thinking. You've got it the wrong way round @shizuku - try being a little less conservative and a little more open-minded!

It's rather more complex than that. Some trans women have some of the same experiences and needs as some cis women and also some different experiences and needs to some cis women.

Your problem is that you're binary thinker, as most GC people are - hence "there's only male and female!" It's not your fault - this is how conservative and reactionary minds work - they attempt to resolve everything into a simple binary, like when George Bush said "You're either with us, or against us". In fact, the world is all grey areas.

The abuses described above are done mainly to cis girls, but also trans boys and some non-binary children.

Similarly, everyday sexism is an abuse suffered by most cis women and passing trans women, but not by passing trans men.

Prejudice against gender non-conformity is suffered by non-passing trans women, but also passing trans women who are gender non-conforming and cis women who are gender non-conforming, and also many non-binary people.

People, both trans and cis, and of any sex can organise against such abuses, but only some of those people were at risk of those abuses.

Welcome to intersectional feminism.

Have you grasped that yet?
I doubt that @shizuku will be back on this thread or on any of the other threads where it is clear that the whole argument just doesn't work. Here they admit that women and trans women have very different experiences and needs. I expect they will pop up somewhere else to start the same tired argument from the top sooner or later!

I don't think you've understood how privilege works. Having one privilege doesn't mean you have all privileges. These awful things are done to girls (and trans boys and non binary children) but not because they aren't trans.

Yes, These things are done to girls because they are female. So female people need to organise politically on the basis of their sex class. Have you grasped that yet?

That sounds very difficult Educationneeded
It sounds as if there are some issues that your parents really need to get to grips with. One being her online access (and I get that it's hard but she' 11 and if they leave it until she's 13 / 14 it will be impossible.
What you said about her lack of friends is also a worry - it's not surprising she turns to the internet is she has no support from friends in her real life. It also sounds as if she's been bullied in school and they've done nothing to tackle this?
How open are your parents to taking advice? I ask this as it sounds as if she may benefit from a range of positive actions in response to this?

That's different to being rejected for not being trans. Obvs.

I hope you explained to her that in sports, being female bodied playing against male bodies might seem fine right now aged 11, but as soon as these boys hit puberty which is basically any day now, she'll be putting herself in an extremely unsafe situation, with high risk of injury, and she basically won't ever win or even qualify for any team in secondary school if she chooses the boys team.