The Times and gender critical comments.

I comment regularly but have rarely had anything refused. I’m not rude but robust - almost all the comments are GC

you bad person nauticant wash your mouth out with soap.

In one of the Margaret Lynch articles where the journalist responsible went to war against the readership in the comments my comment was deleted because I said he was "telling off" people highame.

and..........I wonder if they've had a new recruit in their Equalities department. Maybe Aimee has got herself another job?

Did you see the fun and games earlier in the week when The Times put up effectively the same article on Sunday, Tuesday, and Wednesday to trash Margaret Lynch, an Alba candidate, for pointing out that Stonewall was showing support for a document that, in effect, was looking to remove the restriction on adolescents being about to consent to sex?

The moderation for those articles was insane.

I have had comments deleted and then wrote and asked why and it was this simple - I had written 'get a grip' and it was taken as being rude. Do not be rude in your Times comments. However, if you suspect foul play write to the Editor. I suggest doing that before cancelling your subscription, only because the Times is a respected newspaper and if you leave, that means fewer and fewer fighting the GC corner. Bags of letters and I also wonder if a concerted campaign to IPSO might make them look again at what they are expecting journalists and editors to agree to.

I believe there might be a case for someone holding a GRC being classed as female, but I do not believe someone without such a certificate can claim discrimination under the EA and therefore public interest would be best served by accuracy

The moderation is wildly variable. It can be tricky to get gender critical comments to be accepted and then not deleted but over the past couple of weeks it's gone off the charts.

There does seem something in the air in recent weeks, not just The Times' comments.

I wonder if Trans Media Watch and friends are on manoevres.

Today it seems like every comment is being moderated on the article about people accused of rape. I think it’s great that they do in fact print articles on the topic. Even with the heavy moderation. The one related to the alba party had plenty of comments go through and for those lurking on the comments section of the times I’m sure it is still useful to read the comments that get through. And the lurkers must wonder why some comments don’t get through.

Hmm, that's disappointing, it was always a place for robust views.

I have been censored twice in the last week, for polite comments. Thinking about cancelling my subscription.

At the moment just about any GC comment will attract this warning, at the very least:

Some members of the community may find your comment inappropriate. Try Again?

I comment regularly and don't think I've been censored, though maybe I haven't commented in the past couple of weeks; there are usually lots of GC comments.

The moderation is wildly variable. It can be tricky to get gender critical comments to be accepted and then not deleted but over the past couple of weeks it's gone off the charts. On some stories I have comment after comment refused. Innocuous comments can get a flat refusal for them even to be submitted or a scolding warning comes up about how a comment will be subject to extra vigorous moderation. It is extremely frustrating to see disinformation posted by a trans activist and my reply to explain the facts get deleted.

Also, including a link will often get you a telling off or trigger a delay of up to 24 hours before you find out the fate of your comment.

It does feel like something has happened behind the scenes at The Times recently.

The Times, like Mumsnet are under repeated attack from those who forget that we live in a democracy and that free speech is a cornerstone of this. These people - the majority of whom are males skilled in coercive control and bullying - have managed to use politics and business to determinedly target women and women's rights. Evidenced by the story showing Scottish organisations and politicians having the backs of rapists, sex offenders and paedophiles rather than the interests of their women and child victims.

I have also had GC comments refused by the Times moderators recently. I’m surprised and annoyed about it, as the Times was one of the last bastions of women’s rights.
Having to resort to censorship and silencing the opposition is proof the TRAs have lost the argument, in my view.

I've actually been impressed with the comments that get through the censors. Some of the commenters are excellent. I feel the same about comments to the New York Times articles.

My understanding is that IPSO is such that all MSM conform to these linguistic usages, no matter how misleading they are.

www.pressgazette.co.uk/ipso-commissions-research-into-standards-of-uk-media-reporting-on-transgender-issues/

More discussion of that piece here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4221733-Rape-suspects-can-choose-to-self-identify-as-female-Times-Scotland