14 yo girl broken bones after playing rugby against a 14 yo boy.

Quote from World Rugby document

While there is overlap in variables such as mass, strength, speed and the resultant kinetic and kinematic forces we have modelled to explore the risk factors, the situation where a typical player with male characteristics tackles a typical player with female characteristics creates a minimum of 20% to 30% greater risk for those female players.

"In the event of smaller female players being exposed to that risk, or of larger male players acting as opponents, the risk increases significantly, and may reach levels twice as large, at the extremes.

www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/19/transwomen-face-potential-womens-rugby-ban-over-safety-concerns

Mixed rugby is 10 and under its an absolute no for anything over that. Contact rugby is highly controlled. Dh is a pe teacher and would go so far as to say it's illegal. That's a great big law suit waiting to happen.

Absolutely.

Male and female comparisons in sport

Mixed rugby is 10 and under its an absolute no for anything over that. Contact rugby is highly controlled. Dh is a pe teacher and would go so far as to say it's illegal. That's a great big law suit waiting to happen.

What did they they think would happen with a mixed sex group at that age???

Poor kids.
He must be feeling awful.

It's not going to end well when all sense has gone out the window and sports teams are mixed.

Don't be ridiculous, of course there is. Gymnastics, figure skating, ballet, rugby, AFL, skateboarding, skiing, surfing - the way these athletes fall when you watch them isn't random, it's as trained as any other move. if you're going to be playing a sport in which falling takes up a huge portion of your time it best be the very first thing you learn to do. Unless of course you"re suggesting getting tackled by a teenage boy is more dangerous than a ton of water crashing down on your head.

It's incredibly improbable that this girl's foot broke because of anything the boy directly did and far more likely that she doesn't know how to fall and so landed awkwardly.

With respect, this is bollocks. Ice hockey (I presume you’re talking about) is a completely different game to rugby and the injuries to feet in both games will be different as one is played on grass in boots and one is played on ice with blades. As for falling, if you’re being tackled by more than one player how on earth can you control the fall? You can’t! Have you even watched rugby?

I thought the World Rugby governing body had already banned mixed rugby because of safety concerns.

Rugby is a ridiculously dangerous sport end of, did nobody tell them that there was a danger of this? If so it was their choice, poor her and poor him. Someone said above about society insisting there is no differences, this so true, you are not allowed say a man or boy is physically stronger than a woman/girl. Everyone begins to argue but in general it is true. Of course there are exceptions but I will never be able to lift have the weights (eg bags of cement/ fuel for the fire etc) my dh would be able to

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Creepygnochi

The fastest 500m speed skaters reach 40mph, so I very much doubt a figure skater reaces that speed.

It is my personal lived experience that the bigger, and heavier the object collided with, the worse the impact when you land. Those forces go somewhere.

For this reason, if I am going to end up flat on the ground during some form of sport, I would like it to be at the hands of a slight 14 year old girl, and not her 15 year old brother.

There's no proper way to fall when you are taken out by a guy. It happens in the blink of an eye. I've played plenty of mixed sex football (which is only semi-contact) and I don't stand a chance against the men, even when they're holding back.

It is also not true that a male of the same weight as a woman has the same strength/risk of injury. By every objective measure they are stronger and tougher.

@InvisibleDragon - I agree. I played a couple of games of touch rugby and found the sex advantage of men enormous, even compared to football and found the game no fun at all.

Because twisting reality to serve an agenda is never a good look.

A lesson for us all.

My son is smallest in his year and during rugby sessions at school he is always knocked flat, and I can well believe that the fact that the girl was playing against a 14yr old boy had a lot of relevance to the injuries that she sustained during the tackle.

Creepygnocchi, stop arguing with posters on MN and go and lecture the medical experts at the World Rugby Federation, since you apparently claim that they are wrong, and you believe yourself to be so much better informed than them.

I am a mere doctor, so my view that you are talking nonsense obviously doesn’t count.

Touch rugby is an option, it's lots of fun and good for mixed sex or age groups.

I played mixed tag rugby for a while. The male/female imbalance in speed and power is huge. It's supposed to be non-contact, but big guys can bend the rules by running straight at a smaller (female) defensive player. It's technically not allowed. It's either move or get totally wiped out.

Tag rugby also has different scoring rules for male and female players in a mixed team. A female try scores 2 points, a male try only 1. That's to try and overcome the female disadvantage and avoid male players just passing between each other and leaving the women out totally.

Why are so many posters invested in denying the possibility that this girls' foot was broken because she was playing with a boy who is bigger and stronger? What purpose could that serve 🤔

The real key difference is that in my sport 20 percent of all athletes retire as a direct result of a foot injury, which is to be expected really when you consider the sport is essentially encasing the foot in a leather encrusted cast with a four inch freshly sharpened blade attached to the bottom that you then use to move 50mph on the worlds most slippery surface, throw yourself up into the air as high as you can to complete 4 full body rotations in under a second, before landing on said slippery surface on a single foot at the force of a 1000lbs.

That sounds terrifying, @Creepygnochi. Landing in from a height, in that way, in that footwear, I'm not surprised there are foot injuries.

I'm not an expert of any kind, but can you explain why exactly the same has to be true of a girl in flat boots knocked flying when running in a game of rugby?

I don't say they should be banned from playing. But no use handwringing about broken legs and broken noses.

K