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I just came out as GC at work, to the big boss and I feel a bit sick

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JustcameoutGC · 15/04/2021 12:34

I have NCed for this. I have just outed myself as GC in work to the big boss (and some others cced in).

I was asked to sign off on something that I just couldn't and I said so, and explained why.

I literally feel sick. Like I have put a big fat GC target on my back. My org is totally woke. I wonder how many times my response has been forwarded already.

OP posts:
Flakeymcwakey · 17/04/2021 20:03

Most people who have a cervix, Driveway, only know it because they know themselves to be of the sex class female. Its hardly ever because they have seen or percieved their own cervix. Which is a problem now that "girl" is defined increasingly as a feeling and we are teaching people that they literally change sex when they transition.

Butwasitherdriveway · 17/04/2021 19:58

Oh I agree the rate should be lowered.

But I really struggle with someone not knowing they have a cervix.

Butwasitherdriveway · 17/04/2021 19:58

@Congressdingo

But the flippancy is the problem, isn't it I have no idea if the pp who wrote what your responding to was being flippant or not, I can honestly say my life would be fantastic if I could retire now on my state pension officially aged 67/68. I could have many many years of not working and claiming. I am not being flippant,I'm damned serious. So if its an option I will take it.
Yeh.

But it isn't.

And the flippancy doest help.

Nellodee · 17/04/2021 19:55

Brilliant, smokedduck!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/04/2021 19:46

I believe that everyone should have the right to identify how they choose and people should respect t.

When I write it like that, it's indisputable.

Oh really. I identify as Elizabeth I. There is no objective evidence to support this belief. Should I be respected?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 17/04/2021 19:41

Women are not invited for a smear test before age 18, so it is entirely possible teens would not know they had one.

True - it's 25 yrs-old and up in England. I don't even remember when information leaflets started calling it cervical screening rather than a smear test.

boatyardblues · 17/04/2021 19:29

@Mibbiesaye

"Except I point blank refuse to believe someone's TEENAGER daughter currently in existence somewhere between 13 and 18 doesn't know they have a cervix."

Really? You can't imagine any young people with literacy problems, learning difficulties, with EAL, or from cultural backgrounds where parents may not be willing or able discuss these things?

Women are not invited for a smear test before age 18, so it is entirely possible teens would not know they had one.
ListeningQuietly · 17/04/2021 19:23

Congress
Flippant? Moi ? Wink

Transbadger
That is BRILLIANT

Congressdingo · 17/04/2021 19:17

But the flippancy is the problem, isn't it
I have no idea if the pp who wrote what your responding to was being flippant or not, I can honestly say my life would be fantastic if I could retire now on my state pension officially aged 67/68. I could have many many years of not working and claiming. I am not being flippant,I'm damned serious. So if its an option I will take it.

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JustcameoutGC · 17/04/2021 18:53

@SmokedDuck

For lower ability students, I tend to make silly songs to get things to stick. Sadly, not much rhymes with cervix, so I don’t think that would apply to the information being discussed in this thread.

There once was a group of young chicks,
Confused about the cervix.
Where could it be found,
They wondered aloud,
"Tween the lowermost lips and the nips."

Grin @transbadger I think an award is in order here
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SmokedDuck · 17/04/2021 18:46

For lower ability students, I tend to make silly songs to get things to stick. Sadly, not much rhymes with cervix, so I don’t think that would apply to the information being discussed in this thread.

There once was a group of young chicks,
Confused about the cervix.
Where could it be found,
They wondered aloud,
"Tween the lowermost lips and the nips."

Floisme · 17/04/2021 18:42

Thanks again Listening I am now really annoyed with them for telling me they couldn't change the wording when it was clearly a blatant, easily disprovable lie. The moral I think is to always have all your facts lined up before you ask questions.

ListeningQuietly · 17/04/2021 18:29

Floisme
As part of my work I write technical guidance
the organisations I deal with are the opposite of woke by the way
and I'm a BIG believer in hyperlinks to legislation and government guidance.
That way its not my opinion
its provable rules
so if somebody wants to criticise what I say they have to start by refuting links that end in .gov.uk Smile

So if you were to say "and this is the wording I got from clause XXX of the EA" ....

Floisme · 17/04/2021 18:18

That's true Listening, thanks. Now I just need to think up a non-confrontational way of telling them they're either mistaken or they're lying. What can possibly go wrong? Grin

ListeningQuietly · 17/04/2021 18:14

@Floisme
Kids use it for school work .... PTAs use it ..... Facebook pages use it .... there are loads of reasons why you could have been messing around with it WinkGrin

Nellodee · 17/04/2021 18:10

WaitWhat23, I went to take a look at that list to see if I could use it to write an explanatory poem about who has cervix and why, but realised it would almost certainly result in an instaban! Blush

Floisme · 17/04/2021 18:05

Thanks Listening The trouble is, designing surveys isn't part of my remit. I will need to think up a 'I was messing about on Surveymonkey and I happened to notice that you do seem to be able to do this after all....' kind of approach, rather than, 'You lying bastards.'

ListeningQuietly · 17/04/2021 18:02

@Floisme

Ah thank you! The one time I summoned up the nerve to query it, I was told they couldn't do anything about the wording as it wasn't theirs. Now I need to think of a diplomatic way of going back to tell them they're um... wrong. That should go well Grin
Have a play with the free version of Surveymonkey - it lets you do up to 10 questions and 100 responses that way when they say "it can't be done" you can reply with yes it can and here are the questions ready written in the correct format pedant, moi?
Butwasitherdriveway · 17/04/2021 18:01

Union reps are bound by the actual policies, though.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 17/04/2021 18:00

@Floisme

Most of the workplaces I know do not have unions and where they do exist, from what I've seen they're fully signed up to gender ideology and would cheerfully throw you under for heresy. On this issue, I'd trust my CEO more than I would a union rep.
Our union rep is extremely woke and would be the very last person I’d turn to for help in this context. I don’t trust them in the slightest.
AnyOldPrion · 17/04/2021 17:59

Good luck Floisme.

Good thing there are courageous women fighting for women’s rights despite the fact that it’s an unpopular stance currently in many public arenas.

Floisme · 17/04/2021 17:57

That's a bit of a bummer though. I had actually believed them....

Floisme · 17/04/2021 17:56

Ah thank you! The one time I summoned up the nerve to query it, I was told they couldn't do anything about the wording as it wasn't theirs.
Now I need to think of a diplomatic way of going back to tell them they're um... wrong. That should go well Grin

ListeningQuietly · 17/04/2021 17:53

@Floisme

My quest has consisted of finding out the organisation that designed the questionnaire Does anyone know of any alternatives to Survey Monkey, i.e. that produce questionaires that don't conflate sex and gender?
Surveymonkey is merely a template. You can put in whatever question you want. It does not conflate sex and gender organisations using it do
Butwasitherdriveway · 17/04/2021 17:52

Thanks Thumb.

Driveway is going to go and get a shower and a gin and remember to read titles before posting.