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I just came out as GC at work, to the big boss and I feel a bit sick

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JustcameoutGC · 15/04/2021 12:34

I have NCed for this. I have just outed myself as GC in work to the big boss (and some others cced in).

I was asked to sign off on something that I just couldn't and I said so, and explained why.

I literally feel sick. Like I have put a big fat GC target on my back. My org is totally woke. I wonder how many times my response has been forwarded already.

OP posts:
Bancha · 18/04/2021 09:04

*I believe that everyone should have the right to identify how they choose and people should respect t.

When I write it like that, it's indisputable.*

But isn’t the point that being trans isn’t a choice?

JustcameoutGC · 18/04/2021 09:00

@transbadger I think your prize-giving services may be required

OP posts:
Congressdingo · 18/04/2021 08:53

What does one call a group of cervixes
Women.

Clarice99 · 18/04/2021 08:13

My attempt in Rap Style Grin Grin

Hey you, I'm not a prick
You got the wrong sex
Cos I have got a cerVIX

Keep getting it wrong
By labelling gender
I gotta try and change that thinking
Cos I ain't no pretender

We need identity
To stop the effects
Of negative thinking
Not gender, it's SEX

boatyardblues · 18/04/2021 06:37

Posting to show appreciation for the tooting badger emoji combination. 👌

SmokedDuck · 18/04/2021 02:38

Thanks you, @transbadger, for the award. It's my best effort so far.

Odense · 18/04/2021 00:04

In defence of the OPs clarity of language Point, you only have to take a stroll round some of the other boards on her (AIBU is pretty bad for this)to see just how shockingly poor reading comprehension is. And that’s in a bunch of people sufficiently wealthy and well educated enough to go online as a leisure activity.

timeisnotaline · 17/04/2021 23:55

@Butwasitherdriveway

Outing is equally as....deceitful.

GC is in no way equable to the conflict people feel in revealing they are gay.

Outing is very ordinary language! I wouldn’t blink reading it in a market analysis at an investment bank, it’s pretty oppressive to suddenly tell people these words are off the table!
allaboutthecrisps · 17/04/2021 22:08

@Butwasitherdriveway

I think you have just misinterpreted the original post tbh. It never was really about the OP. Many people are really scared about what is happening and it's clear to most of us that the OP was too. It's easy to ignore it if it does not affect you directly but the OP is standing up for the more vulnerable in society. I think that was clear from the start.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 17/04/2021 21:26

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Cervix is a Latin word meaning neck. As has been pointed out on either this thread or another one I read recently (apols, can't remember which) it's used to indicate both the topmost part of the spine and also the neck of the womb. Cervical is the adjectival form. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to learn that lots of people who've vaguely heard of cervical cancer and cervical smears don't know that the part of the body involved is the cervix, and where it is.
And, to be absolutely fair, recently the options around cervical might be one of those areas where a little knowledge can end up confusing the matter. HPV vaccines reduce both the risk of cervical cancer (cells in the neck that connects the uterus and vagina) and head and neck cancer.

People put in search engine enquiries that reflect the conflation. You can see some of this in the screenshot.

I just came out as GC at work, to the big boss and I feel a bit sick
ListeningQuietly · 17/04/2021 21:21

Which
yet again
YET AGAIN
brings us back to the OP's situation

Clear, unequivocal, scientifically based healthcare information
is ABSOLUTELY key
and any organisation that values
inclusivity
over
CLARITY
needs to be challenged by those who value facts

BuffyTheSlavishIdeologySlayer · 17/04/2021 21:14

I didn't know the neck thing.
Something to remember next time I am reading Funny Bones to ds.

WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 17/04/2021 21:14

:( I would definitely recommend one. I get a lot less cervix neck pain and tension headaches since I got mine. It was only a few £ on amazon too.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 17/04/2021 21:14

My DGM used to have a cervical collar.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/04/2021 21:07

Quite. I could do with one of those, actually. Nasty feeling arthritis is taking hold in my neck. Sad

WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 17/04/2021 21:03

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Cervix is a Latin word meaning neck. As has been pointed out on either this thread or another one I read recently (apols, can't remember which) it's used to indicate both the topmost part of the spine and also the neck of the womb. Cervical is the adjectival form. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to learn that lots of people who've vaguely heard of cervical cancer and cervical smears don't know that the part of the body involved is the cervix, and where it is.
I've got a cervical cushion. For my neck/head.
Butwasitherdriveway · 17/04/2021 21:01

@EmpressWitchDoesntBurn Scotland

Butwasitherdriveway · 17/04/2021 21:00

@transbadger

What the fuck went on in this thread today?

I nipped out for some sunshine and it all went kerflooey.

Do I need to start handing out Smelly Badger Awards to people talking shite?

🦡💨

Ooh I do like the word kerflooey.
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/04/2021 20:53

Cervix is a Latin word meaning neck. As has been pointed out on either this thread or another one I read recently (apols, can't remember which) it's used to indicate both the topmost part of the spine and also the neck of the womb. Cervical is the adjectival form. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to learn that lots of people who've vaguely heard of cervical cancer and cervical smears don't know that the part of the body involved is the cervix, and where it is.

transbadger · 17/04/2021 20:50

What the fuck went on in this thread today?

I nipped out for some sunshine and it all went kerflooey.

Do I need to start handing out Smelly Badger Awards to people talking shite?

🦡💨

AnyOldPrion · 17/04/2021 20:43

@ValancyRedfern

If kids in school are told that 'some people have a cervix' with no mention of male or female. How they supposed to know which of them have a cervix? The teachers leaving out the words male and female are assuming the kids already know, which is a massive dereliction of duty.

I only knew I had a cervix when I was invited to a smear test aged 19. And even then I didn't know where it was: I thought it would be a vaginal swab near the opening, I nearly shot off the bad in pain and shock when the nurse started winching me open and mining my insides. And I was educated before all this confusing language.

Pretty much how it will be when the definition of woman taught in school is “anyone who identifies as a woman” and the children will shake their heads and say, but what is a woman then?

The definition only works if everyone already knows what a woman is.

At least if you use the definition “anyone with a cervix” it can technically be checked, though some might suggest that having to examine genitals to check such details is a terrible thing to have to do... but then if you don’t check, how could anyone possibly know who has a cervix otherwise?

transbadger · 17/04/2021 20:39

@SmokedDuck

For lower ability students, I tend to make silly songs to get things to stick. Sadly, not much rhymes with cervix, so I don’t think that would apply to the information being discussed in this thread.

There once was a group of young chicks,
Confused about the cervix.
Where could it be found,
They wondered aloud,
"Tween the lowermost lips and the nips."

@SmokedDuck

Your comment has been called to my attention as deserving of a Badass Badger Award. Upon review it has been agreed that it is indeed a stunning comment.

Here is one shiny Badass Badger Award for your excellent contribution to this thread.

🏆

🦡🌈🤍

ValancyRedfern · 17/04/2021 20:15

If kids in school are told that 'some people have a cervix' with no mention of male or female. How they supposed to know which of them have a cervix? The teachers leaving out the words male and female are assuming the kids already know, which is a massive dereliction of duty.

I only knew I had a cervix when I was invited to a smear test aged 19. And even then I didn't know where it was: I thought it would be a vaginal swab near the opening, I nearly shot off the bad in pain and shock when the nurse started winching me open and mining my insides. And I was educated before all this confusing language.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 17/04/2021 20:12

@Butwasitherdriveway

Oh I agree the rate should be lowered.

But I really struggle with someone not knowing they have a cervix.

You said you’re not in England Driveway, I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

There are posters all over the tube about kids of both sexes getting vaccinated against ‘certain HPV cancers’.

HermitsLife · 17/04/2021 20:10

Thats beautiful SmokedDuck. Do we have a Mumsnet Poet Laureate? 🏆