I just came out as GC at work, to the big boss and I feel a bit sick

Late to the party, but well done, OP.

I'm out, too, in an organisation where the top dogs are incredibly hostile to anyone expressing GC opinions, but where most people are fine, whether they agree with me or not. The more of us who are out, the easier it is for other people to join us.

Well done OP. Some people I work with cannot literally understand the issue at all and jump on the woke bandwagon.I suspect more people than you think agree with you but just can’t be seen to.

I’m so glad I don’t work with you. I would have to have my phone out under the desk googling “what is GC?” 😂 I was thinking Gluten??...What a load of bollix! The world has well and truly gone mad!

If we could respect people's request to identify as whatever gender they prefer while protecting sex-based rights and using anatomically correct, sex-based language there might actually be a way forward.

It’s hard to understand why this view is so controversial that if you posted it on Twitter, you’d probably receive rape threats and death threats.

OP, you are really brave. I do hope you are ok and will be ok. People like you are making a huge difference.

Well done OP

I was a proper adult and everything before I realised the uterus and the womb are the same thing.

I swear to god I'm not a thicksickle. I don't know what the fuck happened that I didn't know this.

🦡🌈🤍

“You might be surprised at how few people (including women) know exactly what/where a cervix is”

I was on my training as a HCP before I knew - I am a pretty intelligent person but admittedly pre internet hadn’t really got a clue.

re. the madness subsiding - I really fecking hope so but I have my doubts!
There is a man in prison in Canada at the moment because he refused to call his daughter his son, and because he was trying to stop her having life-changing medical treatment, while his now-ex wife supported the girl in her bid.

Victoria state in Australia has recently passed an "anti conversion therapy bill" that would have been a great thing, if the TRA lobby hadn't hijacked it - so now if someone presents as trans, the only option is "affirmation", no one can risk suggesting they might need therapy or anything else without coming up against the possibility of a $10,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. How is this sane?

Norway have the "thought police" law in place now where if you are reported as having been "transphobic" in your own home even, you can be convicted of hate speech and go to prison. This would obviously entail someone else in your home reporting you - echoing what happened in early Communist China under Mao, and of Hitler Youth in Germany.

The fact that Scotland are even considering including some similar law is terrifyingly close to home, and NSW (the Australian state I live in) have said they will follow VIC with their anti-conversion therapy law very quickly.

If people want to know how and why this state of affairs has come about, the best thing to do is to follow the money - who is making the money out of this, and who is driving it, supplying the funding. I'm not going to link because last time I did, MNHQ deleted my post - but if you search, you can find. If anyone has decided they are also now GC, then Glinner (Graham Linehan) is a good source of info too - despised by the TRAs, he's one of the few males who have come in for some serious backlash from them, but he keeps going.

The Red Guard/1984/thought police aspect of all this became very very obvious when Maya Forstater lost her job, and when JKR got targeted for supporting her. The sheer volume of venomous and violent posts on twitter aimed at JKR was horrifying, and it's still ongoing.

Unfortunately, I fear "sex pay gap" will sound to some ears like it might be referring to something completely different...

In what way is your organisation woke?

@SweetPetrichor

You don’t ‘come out’ as GC. If I worked with you, I’d be reporting such behaviour for further education and disciplinary action. I reported similar behaviour relatively recently and it was handled very well. I don’t think you have anything to be proud of here and I hope any decent work place will remind you of company policy and/or professional behaviour.

You must be a joy to work with 🍩

That film about Ruth Bader Ginsburg "On the basis of sex" shows where the stupid conflation between gender and sex comes in. The title is good, the fight is good, but when it comes to her write up of it, they make her change the title to gender instead of sex because of the twee pearl-clutchers who don't want to hear the word sex in public.

I no longer let people use the word gender unchallenged. If they mean sex then they need to say sex because that's half the bloody problem these days. Some "naice" ladies-in-particular still can't sully their fingers by typing sex, or their mouths by saying it - but we have to get past that now and use the correct terminology.

Well done, and thank you OP x

Well done brave OP... You did a very important thing today. The feeling of sickness might wear off in a few days. I outed myself one week ago and feel so much better one week later (with some help from lovely posters here) after a mentally tough few days.

Well done OP.

@poppycat10

"gender reassignment" is the term used in the Equality Act 2010 for people with a trans identity and it doesn't require the person to undergo any physical changes at all.

It's the correct term to use on lists of the protected characteristics that organisations need to be mindful of not discriminating against. Many use wrong and ambiguous terms like "gender identity" or "gender" and many leave out "sex" altogether, despite it being a separate protected characteristic, namely the one that protects women's right to single sex spaces.

Okay, let's demonstrate just how unclear the language becomes. The original plural of cervix is cervices. Cervixes is a relatively recent usage. How many women would know they were being targeted by a health campaign for people with cervices?

Great thread. A couple of links to articles for anyone new to this debate.

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/ Towards the end of this longish 2018 article there's a section about the damage done by some ultra-woke Goldsmith's students who got involved with the Deptford Project which was set up to work with women on very low incomes, many of them refugees and/or survivors of abuse. The students were fixated instead on trying to get them to use the right pronouns. Frightening.

4thwavenow.com/2021/04/13/tmi-genderqueer-11-year-olds-cant-handle-too-much-info-about-sterilizing-treatments-but-do-get-on-with-those-treatments/ And here's another article about just how harmful gender ideology can be. It's about a psychologist in the US, but what starts there often drifts across the Atlantic. Some very vulnerable children and teenagers are being badly let down by their parents and a vocal group of professional people.

You mean you hadn’t done the test of whether he prefers a pink or a blue collar? That’s how we knew what we were getting when we picked ours up from the breeder.

I do see my mistake in hindsight.