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Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....

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GizmoBasil · 14/04/2021 08:06

She's mainly being pulled apart in the comments due to, you know, lying.

No doubt in my mind that she's getting puberty blockers and the contraceptive pill mixed up.

Such a shame as I have been following her since my early 20's and found her feminism very accessible back then.

Am I being unreasonable to say she's talking nonsense??

Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....
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Shizuku · 14/04/2021 18:25

Diagnosis and Management of Heavy Menstrual Bleeding [HMB] and Bleeding Disorders in Adolescents

nmcdn.io/e186d21f8c7946a19faed23c3da2f0da/a2fa4803e65a4165bb7fcbba6a33c0cd/files/education/webinars/jamapediatrics_borzutzky_2019_rv_190003.pdf

Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....
lolacola77 · 14/04/2021 18:22

Shes an irritating gobshite. She seems to have an answer for everything and has been called out many times for her tall tales!

Clymene · 14/04/2021 18:22

Malcolm Clark has taken her apart step by step. Even if you are sim enough to believe that this could have happened, the timeline doesn't work. https://twitter.com/twisterfilm/status/1382304132942413836?s=21

I find it extremely disturbing how gung ho some people are about really awful drugs being given to children, particularly when there is such powerful testimony from women like @Sophoclesthefox and @ChiefBabySniffer ThanksThanksThanks

yourhairiswinterfire · 14/04/2021 18:19

You didn't need to go any further than Wikipedia.

And if you go to the Heavy Menstrual Bleeding page and go to Treatment>Medications
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_menstrual_bleeding#Treatment

it says:

First line
Intrauterine device with progesterone

Second Line
Tranexamic acid an antifibrinolytic agent
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).
Combined oral contraceptive pills to prevent proliferation of the endometrium

Third line
Oral progestogen (e.g. norethisterone), to prevent proliferation of the endometrium
Injected progestogen (e.g. Depo provera)

Other options
Gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist

GnRH as a treatment comes last, when all the other options (the ones like birth control that have been discussed on this thread) have been exhausted.

No doctors were, or are, dishing them out to treat heavy periods. It's taken me 10 years to get my GP to take mine seriously, there's no way they're just putting teenagers on them for heavy periods.

YouNoob · 14/04/2021 18:17

@Mugginyouleftrightandcentre

There is a bloke who claims to be a nurse who pops up a lot on Twitter who is also on her thread defending what she has said.

Someone else is backing up Jameela by repeatedly posting a 'gotcha' screenshot.... Of a Wikipedia entry which states that one of things that Lupron can be used for is precocious puberty.

They must just think people are just completely stupid and gullible. Every female who went to school in the 90s would know this is utter bullshit, I don't understand why she would say it?

I know exactly who you mean. Reminds me of someone in these parts.

Unfortunately, there are people who are willing to listen and take what she has said as fact. That's the problem with influencers: if people think she's wonderful then they will just accept it, no questions asked. Oh and the people making sense on the JJ's thread? They are bigoted, of course.

EdgeOfACoin · 14/04/2021 18:16

Also, I know a lot of women on this board struggled with their changing bodies in puberty.

However, I wasn't one of those girls - for the most part I wanted to be 'grown up' (fortunately I didn't experience catcalling etc until I was into my late teens).

Even if I had had very heavy periods (I didn't), I imagine I would have been very reluctant to take anything that kept my body in a prepubescent state when all my classmates were developing naturally. I doubt I would have been alone in holding that view.

A minute's thought would show up this nonsense for what it is. PBs have never been the obvious or desirable remedy for heavy periods in adolescents.

PotholeHellhole · 14/04/2021 18:09

Wikipedia's citation that they are used on girls entering puberty is where, please?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadotropin-releasing_hormone_agonist

Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 14/04/2021 18:08

There is a bloke who claims to be a nurse who pops up a lot on Twitter who is also on her thread defending what she has said.

Someone else is backing up Jameela by repeatedly posting a 'gotcha' screenshot.... Of a Wikipedia entry which states that one of things that Lupron can be used for is precocious puberty.

They must just think people are just completely stupid and gullible. Every female who went to school in the 90s would know this is utter bullshit, I don't understand why she would say it?

EdgeOfACoin · 14/04/2021 18:03

It would be a bit of a drastic step, wouldn't it, for heavy periods?

A 13-year-old needs help with heavy periods so the doctor gives her something that would interfere with all aspects of puberty, including breast and bone development. Not to mention the well documented side effects.

Also, when would the girl come off the drugs? As soon as she does so, the heavy periods would come back.

I can understand a disinterested doctor allowing a girl to languish on the oral contraceptive pill indefinitely (at least until she wants a child) but pbs are a different kettle of fish entirely.

CardinalLolzy · 14/04/2021 17:58

@toffeebutterpopcorn

She doesn’t seem to be very... aquatinted with the truth...
Is aquatinted when you have turquoise hair?
CardinalLolzy · 14/04/2021 17:57

Next time I make stuff up about loads of girls in my school I'll definitely consult Wikipedia, cheers!

WarriorN · 14/04/2021 17:56

Never seen it mentioned on mn in 9 years. Or womens fb groups or forums.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/04/2021 17:56

Apart from anything else, how would it work? Stop you menstruating, but only if you keep taking the blockers?

Yes. Typically for fibroids, IVF etc it's a very short term use. Due to the bad side effects.

WarriorN · 14/04/2021 17:55

@Shizuku

You didn't need to go any further than Wikipedia.
Not in girls.

Adults. Very Rarely. Most are given ablation, operations, tranexamic acid. A teen would be given the pill first. Even Ibuprofen can help.

bnf.nice.org.uk/drug/leuprorelin-acetate.html

supermum87 · 14/04/2021 17:52

I wonder is she is getting confused with a pill/pills you can take that delay your period. I know a lot of my friends took them when we were in the last year of school because they had a school trip/family holiday and they would take some medication and it would delay their period for that cycle?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 14/04/2021 17:49

She doesn’t seem to be very... aquatinted with the truth...

Shizuku · 14/04/2021 17:49

You didn't need to go any further than Wikipedia.

Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....
DodoPatrol · 14/04/2021 17:48

@WarriorN

Was there som evidence of increased suicidal ideation in some groups?
Yes. Girls. Those born girls, that is.
Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 14/04/2021 17:46

The next tweet up from her ridiculous puberty blockers one, is talking about how plastic surgery for teens is at an all time high and how awful that is.

But she is absolutely fine with girls having their healthy breasts chopped off before they have even reached their twenties? And anyone who does object to that is a 'hateful bigot'?

It's just all so illogical, none of it makes sense!

Still cannot believe she hasn't deleted that PB tweet, I'm cringing for her.

WarriorN · 14/04/2021 17:18

Anyone found it referenced in NICE yet?

Abhannmor · 14/04/2021 17:18

No you are quite right ...it is puerile nonsense. So easy to disprove as well.

Helleofabore · 14/04/2021 17:04

Just repeat the mantra till you feel better.

There is safety in that mantra isn't there? I can imagine some smarmy guru repeating it soothingly....

takingmytimeonmyride · 14/04/2021 17:01

I was a teenager in the 90s and I'm pretty sure none of my peers were on puberty blockers.

I was the first to start my period in my class, in year 6 at age 10. I was prescribed mefenamic acid as a teen because they were heavy and painful, then later went on the pill.

Definitely no puberty blockers.

Wtf is Jameela Jamil going on about? Again.

Datun · 14/04/2021 17:01

Apart from anything else, how would it work? Stop you menstruating, but only if you keep taking the blockers?

So unless there are 'loads' of females with fully arrested development, at best, it's an incredibly short fix.

alkanet · 14/04/2021 16:57

Ah yes,
Don't question the ideology, you will only upset yourself. We have absorbed it all and can tell you all you need to know. Just repeat the mantra till you feel better. Now where have I heard that sort of thing before? (Thanks for the info Transbadger, looks interesting.)